#21
I have no problem with punishment either - in fact I think it is an important part of the process!! Punish, pay your dues, move on. Recidivists may be different, and some behavioural issues may also be different, but the principle of punish/re-pay/move on has to be a good one.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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#22
I agree with that Bern; the problem I have is with inappropriate sentencing - and the repeat offenders.
Roger
#23
Absolutely - repeat offenders clearly have a different set of needs if we are to reduce re-offending, and sentencing is a shambles!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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#24
roger/bern
just got back from town, the poster clearly says "banned for shoplifting", no further information.
interestingly there is only one poster today, the other has been removed rather crudely leaving the sellotape still on the window, maybe someone there reads the forum?
#25
Maybe more of the local shopkeepers and businesses SHOULD read this forum!!
On that note, my hairdresser has moved from Xtreme Chic to further up the London Road, Andrea Barton. The new shop is great, trendily hidden at the back of a music shop (which is bang on the money - it is trendy now to tuck service providers away inside other trendy shops such as music emporiums etc). I work in London and Essex, and all over the place, so could have my hair cut (and other stuff done) in more "fashionable" places but I always prefer to support Dover businesses.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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#26
Sensible words, Bern, but I believe the sentiments to be idealism. People have very long memories and don't forgive easily. There's a balance between 'forgive & forget' and being too soft; I happen to be that we're too lenient a society these days and that the (admittedly difficult) balance between the two is far too one-sided in favour of the 'gone soft' option.
I happen to be a firm believer in corporal punishment. It is quickly dealt with and offenders can then move quickly on with their lives - it is also sends out a sharp and painful lesson that there are thresholds that cannot be crossed. Life is about painful lessons, after all.
True friends stab you in the front.
#27
Sadly true, Andy. And the painful ones are often the ones we remember - possibly because of the scars! But there has to be a point at which we become more than the sum of what we have done. We are all of us more complex than that and everyone has the right to make mistakes and make amends for those mistakes. If amends have been made, surely we then have the right to move on. repeat offenders and thiose with high-risk behaviours are different - I am talking about ordinary people who have done stupid/criminal/offensive things.