Guest 703- Registered: 30 Jul 2010
- Posts: 2,096
27 October 2010
14:5276868Seems to me they've spotted a business opportunity to fill the hole left by the closure a few years ago of the YHA hostel on London Rd, as Paul says it's a facility that's well known elsewhere and missing here.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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27 October 2010
15:4276879ray,yes it could become a YOUTH hostel.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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27 October 2010
15:5276881The Oxford dictionary defines hostel as a `residence for students or nurses`. I think the word `hostel` needs clarifying. You`re 100% right Jan, an absurd combination.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
27 October 2010
16:0076885paul(scotchie) mentioned earlier that budget hotels in some european countries are called hostels.
let's hope this the case here.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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27 October 2010
16:0076886ideal for young hitch hikers etc between leaving ferry port and the railway station.
Jan Higgins
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27 October 2010
16:0676891The above replies still make me wonder why they would need an alcohol licence, there are several other outlets in the area within easy access. I always thought that hostels were booze free as they usually cater for the young or the homeless who might need a bed for the night.
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Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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27 October 2010
17:1576906I agree, I've never known a hostel to require an alcohol licence, sounds a bit dodgy to me
Thanks for the update Scotchie, that is something I was not aware of.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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27 October 2010
17:1776909I think you will find that YHA youth hostel have alcohol licences - it is a way to catch some extra money from visitors who would head straight out to the nearest pub....
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
- Posts: 3,205
27 October 2010
18:0576914Talking about the Youth Hostel in London Road is seeing alot of activity at the moment,inside and out.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,705
27 October 2010
22:5876983The builder who bought it sadly found that someone had nicked all the lead off the roof, he has now demolished the old rear staff accommodation and is looking to develop it in line with the last extant planning permission fro 9 flats
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Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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27 October 2010
23:0076984Regarding the Alma clearly from the statement it is intended as a low cost backpackers hostel with a licensed cafe on the ground floor. Clearly there are a number of hurdles to cross for the owners as the fell at the first last time over the cafe, so will need to pull the stops out to make it clear how they intend to deal with the planning departments previous issues over parking and takeaway trade
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Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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28 October 2010
07:4777002It could be used as a dumping ground for the mass exodus of Londoners that is expected to happen, I think we have enough 1 bedroomers on the Folkestone Rd
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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28 October 2010
08:0277006That was the reason for my earleir posting Sheila, but as I am on the Planning Committee I just wanted to give people the opportunity if they wanted to take it up.
Roger
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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28 October 2010
08:5477018I think the plannng dept at DDC needs to think clearly about how they change the face of any community by there actions.
Time and again myself, Roger, Vic and others pointed out the consequences of decisons made by the plannng committee, not in the interests of the Prory area nor its residents.
Sheila points out one of the issues of concern
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28 October 2010
09:5877042For those that want to see full details on the DDC Planning website DOV/10/00664 on the list for 22nd Oct.
Under Section 3 of Application the applicant states:
"The property has been in use as a cafe. The cafe business has not proved to be a success. The lack of business for the cafe has not necessitated the requirement for extensive staff accommodation in the building that was first predicted by the applicant. It is therefore necessary to find a commercially viable use for the building, and our client proposes a change of use of the 1st,2nd and 3rd floors of the building to a sui-generis class as a hostel.The purpose of the hostel will be to provide budget accommodation for travellers.This accommodation will be short-term and charged on a nightly basis.
The Building does not have provision for on-site parking, but due to the proximity to the docks and train station it is anticipated that the majority of clients will not be arriving by car.On street parking is available on the nearby Military Road.
The existing cafe will remain on the ground floor"
It is interesting that the accommodation for cafe staff totals 20 and I am surprised that the Planning Dept at DDC agreed to this level on the original application as how many cafes have a "live-in" staff level of this size. To me it would seem the objective was to have the accommodation to eventually re-apply as per the current application.
If it is agreed how do you monitor the "guests" as a nightly/short-term and that it is not used as a "Immigrant staying" point that so many have strived to reduce in the Folkestone Road area.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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29 October 2010
07:0777181That info wasn't there when I read the application Pat - thanks for that.
I could argue about a couple of points raised by the agent, but won't.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i don't know if this is still open for business, looking a bit tatty now.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I was under the understanding it was some sort of immigrant doss house
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
what at £15 quid a night per person,dont think so kieth.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,705
It is a well used backpackers hostel
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