Howard, I have posted at least twice how I began my political life working for the Labour Party election machine in Ilford South, back inthe '60's.
I learnt very early on that Labour Governments do very little for the working man and do a lot to control and restrict personal freedoms, and will tax almost anything that moves to pay for their "tax and spend" policies. Anyone who thinks Labour are "for" the ordinary person is sadly deluded in my opinion.
In the late '60's I changed my allegiance to the Tory party even though I was just an ordinary working person, because, in the areas where I was most affected, i.e. pay packet etc., they did more for me than any Labour Government. Forty years on I see nothing has changed, so am happy to continue supporting the Blues.
However, I just wish they had some solid, eye and vote catching policies to tell us about because I'm not convinced at all by the "Big Issue oops Big Nation" thing. I'm voting for the party I want to govern me for the next five years, not some bunch of whimps who have to ask me everytime they need to make a decision. This country needs strong, open and honest leadership for once, it's been well over decade since we had that. In my opinion, DC is the best hope for that outcome.
Im not sure the yellows could work with dc . What happens if there is a hung parliament and a coalition cannot be agreed ?
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Very interesting Sid. I worked in private industry all through the 70s and 80s. The money was very good. When I left and joined the nationalised railways, I couldn`t believe the low pay. And they talk about the good old days of nationalisation. The pay now has shot up since the mid 90s, (speaking in my own work area of course).
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Agreed Colin, those nasty capitalists have a lot to answer for.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Sid ,I agree with all your comments .I found out many years ago and more recently and I cant write it on here ,that Labour are not for the working man .
They pretend all the time and they like to surpress there so called voters
I once stood up in the council chamber and sggested the Labour Councillors lived amongst the people they represent .
Not going to print on here ,but at that time five Labour Councillors were living in River ??
Look at the Wards of Dover and where the representation is and where their councillors live ??
If you put your hat or in my case hats in the ring dont pretend .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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susan, neither of the two big parties are interested in working people.
both proclaimed at the start of the campaign that they are the party of business.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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Howard with outpeople who create business and in turn wealth you donot create jobs ,One cannot work with out the other .Where does the money come from for NHS ,Education,etc .With out good Bussiness iniatives you cannot have wealth .
We all have to learn to aspire .
Look at the local firms who have had to close that is why Dovwer is as it is .I know many working class peopole who have lost their jobs because the firms have gone to the wall .
Im sure Barry will enlighten us further ,You have to have people at the top who can deliver .If they be well educated so much the better .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the point i was making susan is that only business was mentioned, both the big 2 believe in importing people to make their businesses more profitable.
no mention of the impact on the health service, schools, housing and ancillary things that affect ordinary people the most.
Can anyone tell me how labour could come third and still have the most seats, time for proportional representation may be ?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the big two would never allow proportional representation, we would then have full democracy.
every election in my memory has seen the number of seats won unequal to votes cast.
they continually change boundaries but it never fully solves the imbalance.
Labour Party 1997 General Election Manifesto:
"We are committed to a referendum on the voting system for the House of Commons. An independent commission on voting systems will be appointed early to recommend a proportional alternative to the first-past-the-post system."
What happened to the referendum? Did it happen when I was in Nigeria?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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PR is a farce and a recipe for chaos. I am amazed at the way left wing voters and parties (including Gordon Brown) suddenly want to convert to PR as soon as they look like losing an election. Gerrymandering is what I call it.
All that would happen is to place the LibDems in the permanent position of kingmaker, the party with the least votes of the big 3 determening who runs the country - that is not democracy.
The point is Barry, New Labour under Tony and Gordi made a pledge to hold a referendum on the subject. As that hasn't happened in 13 years one must conclude it was just a vacuous lie.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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That is true of course Sid.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Aren't all of their promises vacuous lies ?
Roger
Brian Dixon
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all partys lie more so during election time.all partys promice the earth then welch on them,or do massive u-turns once elected.and thats based on 40 years experiance.
