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Paul Watkins- Location: Dover
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Gary. From an historical perspective you might want to read the Obituary of Sir Derek Ezra in today's Telegraph.
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Paul.
Yes, I have read it, even he felt the back of Maggie's Hand.

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The UK government has pledged hundreds of millions pounds of financial support to fossil fuel industries abroad over the last four years, according to an analysis by Energydesk.
The total support for fossil fuel industries amounts to £1.76bn-worth of Export Credit Guarantees between 2010-2014, underwritten by taxpayer's money.
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West Yorkshires Ferrybridge Power station closed early in 2015, Scotland's Longannet power station is set to shut early this year. other coal fired power stations are under threat, all because of the "Carbon Price Floor"
The "Carbon Price Floor" is arguably one of the most hidden and unknown but ultimately damaging pieces of modern industrial taxation. To use a shorter and more descriptive title, this carbon tax is slowly forcing the premature closure of the backbone of our electricity generating base.
According to Tony Lodge, 26 May 2015
"So what is the Carbon Price Floor tax, why is it so damaging and why did a Conservative-led Treasury introduce it?
In theory it is a straightforward new tax, enabling the Treasury to raise billions - but the side-effects were clearly never examined, understood or accepted.
They are disastrous, as we are now seeing, by threatening future supplies".
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More than 1,000 jobs are to go at Tata Steel plants, mostly in south Wales.
Tata said 750 jobs would go in Port Talbot, while 200 support staff elsewhere would be axed.
Other job losses would include 15 at Trostre, Llanelli along with jobs going at Hartlepool in north east England and at Corby, Northamptonshire.
Perhaps if Tata was a British company things might be different but being an Indian-owned company makes me wonder if they care at all.
Just because steel is cheaper to buy from China as apposed to British steel, it does not mean it makes economic sense to shut steelworks in Britain?
In fact, buying dearer steel from Port Talbot would probably be cheaper in real terms for Britain.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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British Steel is still the best steel in the world and good to weld up ,but the steel that comes from some parts of the world is a very poor steel and hard to put in a good weld and even then the holding of a weld in that kind of poor steel can put lives at risk in my way of thinking, again only my own views as a person who has been welding over 40years.Good steel makes a good weld poor steel makes a poor weld.

Brian Dixon
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another thatcher trait,first the coal mines and now the steel industry.what next
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I think the steel issue is different from coal as there is a severe lack of demand worldwide, having said that China subsidises theirs heavily and we are unable to levy enough import duty to stop them exporting to us.
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Maybe that the subsidising of producing steel might not make sense in todays climate but subsidising employment must make sense surely.
Stop importing cheap foreign steel and coal and buy British.
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I agree Mr Gary how can we sale our goods overseas if we do not use them ourself.Buy British steel and coal and all that wish to work can and our goods will last a lot longer then the goods we buy from China and other places.
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Another reason to buy British.
In a report published Tuesday, the watchdog says it found children as young as seven working in dangerous conditions to extract cobalt — a vital component of lithium-ion batteries — in the DRC.
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Reginald Barrington
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Apart loving the sound of his own voice what is the problem, are future benefits still guaranteed and being honoured?
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Best coal in the world and we are keeping in the ground.

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Good; nasty stuff as post 34 says - although stone quarrying can be pretty bad too.
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Brian Dixon
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its not good leaving it underground,best dug up and used.
30 years ago most households had coal fires,which was lovley to come home to on cold winter days.made the home more welcoming home to.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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You are dead right in the home and power Stations.
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I love an open fire. You grow a tree, cut it down, burn it and it smells great. The added bonus is that people don't have to get their lungs dirty cutting the tree down.
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