Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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18:1664789VoteWatch, an independent organisation has published a report which shows, in an entirely neutral way, the attendance rates of MEPs from all EU member states. MEP's from Britain, averaged out between all of them had the worst attendance records when compared to all other EU countries.
British MEPs averaged 85% whilst ten other countries had over 90% attendance for their MEPs, the highest featuring Austrian MEPs with a 94% attendance rate.
The highest attending British MEPs were all Conservative (Giles Chichester, Malcolm Harbour, James Nicholson and Charles Tannock) and Liberal Democrat (Baroness Sarah Ludford and Bill Newton Dunn); all with an average of 98%.
In fact, if you were to take UKIP out of the equation Britain's average would rocket up from an embarassing 85% to over 95%.
Interestingly, UKIP,the one party that apparently is so concerned about the EU has the worst attendance record. The one political party that talks about nothing but the EU has the worst attendance record. An insulting irony for the millions of people that voted for UKIP in the last European elections with the promise that elected UKIP MEPs would be right inside parliament fighting for the interests of British people.
However UKIP don't mind cashing their EU cheques.
Marek
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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18:2864791interesting post, also shows how committed the coalition partners are to the european bureaucracy.
Guest 658- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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18:2864792That can be taken two ways Marek but they do like the cash.
beer the food of the gods
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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18:4064795I wiil go back to UKIP post ,we will up set by starting this one up Marek you could have put that on the UKIP one and you have some very good points,I will have a chat with head office on your findings and see what they have to say about them,but please lets keep it all on the same post. Thank you.But would like to point out that Scotland and North Ireland have MPS that are paid to sit in London but never go there.
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19:0364797Vic
To be honest the 'old' UKIP thread has strayed away from the subject so I thought I'd help you get back on track.
When questioned about their poor attendance here are some of UKIP's responses
First answer..".UKIP do not recognise the European Parliament so why would they attend parliamentary sessions?"
erm, interesting that they recognise the parliament when it comes to clocking in and cashing out..
2."UKIP MEPs have more use in their own country than in the European Parliament"
erm, how does that work out? What use do they have when they have about as much say in national issues as Nick Griffin has on a black history month event?
3. "why do you always pick on UKIP, grow some political back bone"
And this was someone from UKIP who refuses to acknowledge that not bothering to turn up and represent your own country when laws are being made is in any way wrong .
My most favourite of all the responses was this one:
"people don't vote for UKIP for them to go to the European Parliament"
Hmm, not what was said on the election leaflets. Good luck getting any votes telling people that. Vote for us and we won't bother our overpaid arses to go and represent our country, despite cashing in on the allowances that are there to allow us to do so.
For a party that obsesses over the EU and bangs on about it all the time you would expect that they would be camped outside the European Parliament, there at every meeting and vote, sticking up for us poor Brits. Evidently not.
UKIP members wonder why Eurosceptics want nothing to do with them. They wonder why they lost to the BNP in practically every constituency in the general election. They wonder why, despite at least 60% of Brits wanting a referendum on the EU that barely 2% vote for the one party that promises an in or out referendum.
Oh and how many elected UKIP MEPs no longer sit with UKIP in the European Parliament? Two. In other words, barely a year gone by and UKIP have already lost two MEPs. And counting..
Marek
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19:3564807Marek you are wrong UKIP done alot better then the BNP we are now the 4th party in the UK ,even in Dover I got more votes than the BNP,and what you are saying about UKIP is also wrong I have been looking it up myself over the 15mins or more and I do not agree with what you have put.But I will now only post about UKIP on the UKIP page ,sorry with you wish to carry on this with myself then go on to the UKIP Page.and I am asking now that the Dover Forum close down this page it is not fair nor needed.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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19:4364809cannot close a thread just like that vic, i agree that ukip did a lot better than the bnp though.
john buckley is the clever bloke with the figures at his disposal, no doubt he will look in soon and clarify things.
i seem to remember him posting about an impressive county council result in dover where ukip came in second.
marek
you have lost me with "ukip mep's not sitting with ukip in the european parliament".
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19:5064811Howard I have now send a email for you and and Paul to look at.
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19:5964813Good thread marek.
It clearly shows how a UKIP vote is a wasted vote in more ways than one. They shout about defending British interests but fail to do so in the Chamber to which they get elected. Getting their fat pay cheques for failing the British public.
Much as I detest the EU and want us out, while we are part of this dreadful organisation our representatives should be there shouting and fighting for Britain and doing everything they can to derail the EU juggernaught, fighting it from the inside.
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20:1864819Vic
If you have anything to say then post it publicly. I can take a good ear bashing.
As for my figures they were obtained from an Independent Source and were figures given by a UKIP employee Yasin Akgun.
If you care to read Votewatch full report click on the link below.I must add that I'd rather believe an Independent source who have no reason to lie than a non elected UKIP member whose party interests are rightly at stake.
http://www.votewatch.eu/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/votewatch_report_30_june_2010.pdfMarek
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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20:2964823I have done that, I told how I was feeling about it,and have now acted on it,it is now up to the Dover forum if they let it run then I will post on it .
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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20:3164825I know that name Marek, he is a FB friend and a member of the Conservative Party - can't be two politicos with that name.... Runs political pundits...
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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20:3364826vic
i have checked both of my e mail addresses no message from you.
try "howardmcs@hotmail.co.uk".
don;t tell melissa though she may stalk me!!
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20:3464827BarryW
Thanks. The tories are well represented and well attended so credit were it's due. I have always felt that if you wanted to change anything it's best to work from the inside where ones voice and vote count for something not shouting insults from outside. If you don't like work to change it.
Marek
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20:3664831BarryW
Just checked he worked for UKIP last year before leaving UKIP (like many others have done) and joining the Tories.
Marek
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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20:4664838No Howard I send it to the forum but will now send it on to you.
Howard you should now have that email.
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21:3964869Vic
I read on another thread that you wish forumites to refrain from posting on this thread...sounds a bit childish to me..however feel free to canvass as you see fit.
I have posted my thoughts back by independent research so far in response your replies are not backed by any statistics or facts.
Marek
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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21:4864873But we are running the same post and already some members are saying the first post should stop now we have two running, you can post what ever you like about UKIP on the right page.i know why you have done this you know like we know that some of the members do not look at the UKIP page,so you have started this one hoping to get more coverage and it is working up till now.
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22:0164887John Buckley asked me what Labour MEP's have done in Europe well here are just a couple of things that they have managed to achieve recently
1.Labour Euro-MP Arlene McCarthy today won the European Parliament's support for measures forcing banks to hold more capital to set against risky activities
Arlene McCarthy told the Parliament in Strasbourg: "Financial experts agree that a high-risk, short-term bonus culture, combined with a lack of capital, were at the heart of the global financial crisis in 2008.
2.New pan-EU rules have been endorsed by MEPs, it will become easier to buy wood in confidence that it has come from a legal source.
Linda McAvan MEP, Labour's European Parliament spokesperson on the environment, welcomed the result of the vote: "The fight against illegal deforestation took a big step forward today.
"Campaigners estimate that there is a black market in illegally sourced wood worth around two billion pounds across the EU each year."It is bad for communities, damaging to the environment and it robs developing countries of an important stream of income..
"We now have properly enforceable rules to ban the placing of illegally logged wood on the European market and to ensure that traders can show exactly where their wood has come from.
3.Labour's spokesperson in the European Parliament on health, has been campaigning for more honest food labelling since the Commission first proposed to change EU rules two years ago. She said:"This is about giving shoppers the right to make an informed choice about what they're buying, but it's clear that most food manufacturers don't want people to know what's really in their food.
"If we're serious about tackling obesity and heart disease, people need to know how much sugar, salt and fat is in the food they eat. But with products like ready meals and pre-packed sandwiches, the only real way of getting the facts is by checking the label - so there has to be a quick and easy way for people to interpret all that information."
My question is what have UKIP achieved?
Vic
This thread is sticking to the topic of UKIP the other was encompassing everything but UKIP policies etc.
Marek
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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22:3164896i know what you are saying marek, totally disagree with you about food labelling though.
my view is that common sense dictates that we buy fresh stuff and cook it ourself, no chance with the likes of me though.
obesity and heart disease is caused by us not getting the ratio right.
eating and exercise!!
the average general practitioner will confirm that.