howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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18 August 2009
17:0027523maybe they would oppose any site?
that could be one reason that there there has been no play area for 7 years?
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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18 August 2009
17:0427527Exactly Howard - but there are ones that must be more favourable than others; given the limited choice.
Roger
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18 August 2009
17:0627528As far as im aware only 1 site saw opposition, whilst many sites were proposed b y locals but all rejected.
So im very interested in the site that is SECRECTLY chosen
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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18 August 2009
17:0827530I'm sure some people would oppose a children' play area; we all know that you can't please all of the people all of the time.
The last one, to my knowledge to be objected to, was using a small section of the allotments between Westbury and Longfield Roads - but that's over with now, so we don't need to go over that one again.
Roger
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18 August 2009
17:1027531No Roger we don't there still are a number of sites, but suppose we will have to wait for the freemasons(sorry) secret society to announce the secret site
sometime
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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18 August 2009
17:2327538Come on Keith, don't be silly; if you know of any sites, put them forward, or let me know and I'll put them forward; the officers at DDC, WANT to know of any sites that maybe available or even possibilities.
It's no good keeping it/them to yourself Keith and then complain afterwards is it ?
Roger
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18 August 2009
17:3027541Sites have been put forward before today as your aware, I dont realy mind where the site is, but lets all make sure we get priory a site.
As im unaware of the councils SECRET decision i hope now that vale view primary school has a newer head that the site near glen grove can be revisted
ikt was only turned down by council last time cos the head at that time said he didnt want kids near his school(rather strange way of looking at things wouldn't you say) always thought schools had children in them .
Thens theres the old clarendopn place area flatten it out put play area on it
re open and make bigger and better the mount road site
there you go just a few for starters
but im just a pleb
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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18 August 2009
18:3227548i do not see mount road as any use.
most of the kids live in the clarendon area.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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18 August 2009
18:3227549i do not see mount road as any use.
most of the kids live in the clarendon area.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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18 August 2009
23:1527562Two good ideas there Keith .I have asked for these sites to be revisited .I probably speak out of kelter thats the word used against me but I cannot see how councillors with dual roles and on the cabinet can do all the work that is necessary to get results .We have Two cabinet members now serving two councils plus one is our vice chairman .Whilst people like Roger and myself have to fight to get action .Im sure there are other councillors who feel the same .
The whole system now is crazy So many decisions have to go through the cabinet
However in my view some important decisions are delegated and cannot even be called in for scrutiny ..
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19 August 2009
08:0627568Keith, as far as I am aware, there are no SECRET sites, no SECRET societies, no SECRET decisions either, but ones that are being looked at for various reasons - ownership, appropriateness, location etc.
My view would be the same as Howards really - Clarendon has a higher concentration of people and most with children, so wouldn't it make more sense to investigate the possibilities of that one as a front runner.
Like I said before, you can't please all the people all the time, but go for and with, the majority.
I don't think Maxton would be the best site either; iot would only feed a few people.
The two KCC sites at or near Vale View school can also be assessed as to their viability, but they are reasonably close to Elms Vale rec. and people from the Clarendon area would be hard pushed to walk that far.
Roger
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20 August 2009
23:4627658ROGER
Vale view school and the KCC sites is a damn site closer to Clarendon than it is to Elms vale rec.
This im sure you know.
Again all i have done is put forward a few suggested sites, no secrets, very open, wish others would do the same.,
SUE
Thanks for your support
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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21 August 2009
07:1127665I don't agree that a Vale View Play-Area is nearer to the Clarendon's than Elmsvale recreation ground.
Vale View Road is off of Elmsvale Road, maybe 5 - 10 minutes at the most walk away; it would take a lot longer to walk from Clarendon Place, Street or Road, to Vale View and Clarendon has a higher concentration of people; another biggie is that children/parents wouldn't have to cross a busy main road.
Roger
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21 August 2009
10:3727688Roger
it would also take just 5 minutes to walk from vale view to clarendon street/place as you know
red herring me thinks you give
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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21 August 2009
11:5827690Its still nearer than Elmsvale or Pencester .Come on Nigel and Sue sort it out .Still Its August and its the closed season .
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22 August 2009
06:2627715Once again, I disagree Keith. No red-herrings at all; I'm not misleading anyone - why do you say that ?
Like I said previously, Vale View is much nearer to Elms Vale rec. than Clarendon and all those around Clarendon don't have to cross the Folkestone Road.
The only advantage I can see with Vale View, is that it would probably be cheaper, but you would then be condemning all those around the Clarendons, Malvern Road, Belgrave Road, the Westbury's etc. to a long, long walk.
Roger
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22 August 2009
08:5327741ROGER
Im not favouring any 1 site, just giving the correct replies.
to walk from Vale view to westbury/clarendon would take less than 5 minutes
its likely it would take slightly longer to walk from vale view to elms vale rec
not much more, but thats reality.
yes theres a road to cross.
All i was saying is, there are some sites to be considered and im sure there are more.
Laets got them out in the open and find the most suitable
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23 August 2009
06:3927795You may be talking about the Belgrave Road end of Clarendon Street and Place, not the middle or other end, but this is getting bogged down in minutia, apart from for those who would have to walk it.
All sites are being considered and approaches made to land-owners, but distances are a very important factor; it's not good enough to say "we got one"; it has to be in the best location for the majority of people.
Roger
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23 August 2009
06:4527796ROGER
At no point have I disagreed with your comments, you asked me to come forward with some ideas for sites which I have done and im sure there are others.
No matter where you site it it will wont suit everyone, by your posting I presume your favoured area is around the Clarendon area? of course this will if you take your posting stratergy(which i dont agree with)
this will be inconvient for people in vale view etc.
My view is, lets push ahead with a site, whereever this is lets get to it,
PRIORY DESERVES BETTER
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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23 August 2009
07:1727805Surely Keith, any strategy should involve location and where it will serve and satisfy the majority of families - how can you disagree with that ?
People in Vale view can walk along Elmsvale Road at their own pace and not have to cross any roads, other than a couple of minor ones.
I have said many times that you can't please all the people all of the time, but the strategy surely should be at least to try and satisfy the majority - we can't have a play area on every street corner.
Roger