Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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16 August 2009
09:5627343I was due to go on radio Kent last week because I do not think that women should do it.As you know I was boxing up to the age of 40 then went on to be a trainer of about 15years after that, so I think I know about the it some what.
Women should not box because (1)As a trainer you try to look after each of the boys and men it the Gym at all times but some times in boxing you can get a cut or even a broken nose it can not be helped,now if that happens to a man and it stays with him all his life and his face looks like a boxers face he can still get a lady to go out with him.But we know that does not work the other way round if a women marks her face bad or has a broken nose ,and you can start in the gym at the age of 11years old that your girl will have that for the rest of her life,at that age they think "Yes "lets have ago " but later in life they think again but it is to late then.
Also we must look at women have babys, now in boxing the best punch to do and it comes very hard to is a hook to the stomach now doing that to a young girl or women the damage could just stop her having a baby later on in life,some times in boxing the damage does not come out to some years later.They can do the training which if done the right way is very hard but good for both sexs but women in the ring is a no for me. When I had my own gym thanks to Mr Neil Rix,I was told by the K.A.B.A. Vic you must let young girls and women in your gym to box I said no to that and in the end I left. There is lots more I could write about but I think by now you can what I am trying to say.So I am sayingdo not let your young good looking girl box it not for them.and to the the ladys I say just think what it could do to you now and later on in life so please stay well away from boxing.
Vic matcham
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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16 August 2009
12:0427345I am all in favour of women boxing what right do we men have to deny anyone access to the sport of their choice.I also agree with women scrapping it out in the front line in the Middle East.Its all about equal rights so long as they receive equal rewards.
Marek
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16 August 2009
12:2627346We would be better off looking hard at boxing as a sport, to be honest.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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16 August 2009
12:5527349Please look at points I am making.
16 August 2009
13:0827350If I do, I see lots about damage and health risks, violence and choice. It may be ones choice to get bashed up, but I question whether or not it is a reasonable sport to encourage.
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16 August 2009
13:1827351It is a very good sport for men,I loved it, I have had some good bouts and win or not ,we could go up to the bar after the bout and the winner would buy the drinks boxing is albout sport, but not for the women. Vic Mathan
Brian Dixon
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16 August 2009
17:3127354womans boxing is no diferant than mud wrestling,womans rugby/football.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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16 August 2009
17:5227355Mr Dixon.
Sir you are so wrong with what you are writing,I do not know if you have been a boxer or know much about it ,but I do not think you so in the way you talk.
Women have babys and by boxing from a very young age and we are talking of about 10years old,punch after punch to the stomach could damage it and in the end could be perment and also it can damage her face again perment. Women boxing is still new so we have not yet seen the damage it can do,but the danger is there and soon or later it will happen to some young lady but it will be to late I have been in boxing a long time and know what it can do.We are not talking about a punch from just out of the blue in the street, we are talking about punchS from some one who has been hiting the punch bags day in and day out and been in training to hit hard some will be strong at it even women after some time and if a young girl or lady takes to much of that to her stomach perment damage will be done.
Vic M
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16 August 2009
17:5527356must agree with Vic on this one and that doesn't happen very often. especially about the low stomach punch ,if the lady in question is pregnant and is unaware of it,it could lead to a miscarriage or worse, Ive no objections to them doing boxercise or whatever they call it,but not an actual punch up. There again I have never understood the pleasure two men find in wellieing seven colours of # out of each other for the pleasure it.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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16 August 2009
17:5927357vic,i could agree with your thoughts but this time i will not .womans rugby for instance they could end up with various broken limbs and the worce thing they could end with is a broken neck with permananatly paralised from the neck down.
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16 August 2009
18:3127358Mr Dixon I would say I do not like to see women playing Rugby it could do damage aswell, but you are not trained in punching like a boxer, I do not play Rugby but boxing I do know what I am talking about so I can only talk about that.
Vic M
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16 August 2009
18:3727359If people want to do this mad sport, fair play to them! I don't think it matters if they are male or female.
I have to admit I find it mesmerising, but I think this is just some kind of funny primal thing much like watching fire. A sport thats objective is to temporarily paralise the other persons brain seems a little silly to me. Although I'm sure it doesn't make much difference, as it must take some kind of mental paralysis to think this is a good idea in the first place!
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16 August 2009
18:4727363The view of the BMA, who are opposed to boxing, is that they see no difference between male and female boxing in terms of the likelihood of injury to the participants.
I fully accept that many young men have benefited from the discipline and self belief that participating in amateur boxing has given them, why should women also not benefit form this?
In this day and age there should be no discrimination in sports, if women wish to participate and are capable of doing so then frankly they should.
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16 August 2009
19:0927367I have already said that there is a big risk to women which could stop them having babys also as a trainer I would never forgave myself if a young girl or women got that kind of damage done to them and what about the liability to a trainer if that did happen because liability in the gym is down to the trainer and if the damage is done to the face of a very young girl say about 11years old and thetrainer is sued.
Vic M
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16 August 2009
19:2227370Sorry Vic, but boys are equally at risk of damage and could sue, the reality is they do not. In an age of gender equality there is no justification for preventing women taking part if they wish to do so.
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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16 August 2009
19:3627378Sorry but it is not only women it is the very young girls from the age of ten and they do not know of the damage that can be done to them,and men still do not have babys(not yet anyway)
Again in the gym it is down to the trainer with risks and with young girls that is to much.
16 August 2009
20:2627384It really is boxing, not gender, that needs to be looked at here.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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16 August 2009
22:0727390Vic, boys of that age do not know the damage that may be caused to them either, you really have to stop talking like females are poor defenceless simpering little flowers, that might have washed when you were a lad, but it really does not pass muster these days.
Bern, I am with the BMA on boxing.
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17 August 2009
06:3827397There is a greater merging of activities done by girls of all ages, from boxing to plumbing, mountaineering to hod-carrying and of course binge-drinking and violence.
Maybe it's just part of the "different but equal" scenario; I guess I must be old-fashioned because I love "feminine" Ladies, not big masculine women who would/do frighten the life out of me with their rippling muscles.
I do agree though that if they really want to do a job or sport and the consequences are explained fully to them, they can do it - it is their decision.
I'm not sure that a young girl (10 to say 13) would understand the implications of continually being punched in the stomach and face and how it might impact on them later in life - even later on in their teenage years.
Roger
17 August 2009
06:4927399Ditto young boys, Roger. That age is too young to appreciate al the implications, and we owe a duty of care to the young, whose very youth causes them to be vulnerable.