Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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How old are you Barry? I don't think we will see it matey.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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Barry
Not ready to vote 'out' yet? We've never even been offered the chance to vote either way. I think that the reason for successive governments failing to honour promises of a referendum on continued British membership of the EU is that they're all running scared of an overwhelming 'No' vote; if politicians on either side believed that the British nation would approve of continued membership of the EU, then we'd have had a referendum on it years ago.
As Ian says, I don't think we'll see it in our lifetime, but I hope to see enough people voting UKIP to force a Tory rethink over the matter. I know polls can be easily dismissed (and I go along with the notion that a poll is what you want to make of it), but it does seem clear that the Tory lead is slipping. Now, if DC were to promise a referendum on EU membership - PROMISE, mind you! - then I would expect the Tory lead over Labour to be back in double figures overnight.
It really rankles that the EU can dominate our constitution to the extent it does in all areas of ourlives, and noone has had the decency to ask if we would mind very much.
True friends stab you in the front.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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No-one wants out of the EU more than me Andy but it would be a mistake at this stage to place all bets on one throw of the dice.
The ratification of Lisbon will, in the long term, play into our hands, they have a long enough rope now to hang themselves. Make no mistake the interfering Brussels beaurocrats, after a short pause, will be making renewed power grabs that will enrage people.
Its all about timing.
In the meantime the best chance we have of a Government that will be a thorn in the EU's side and will seek to renegotiate a return of powers is to vote Conservative. The present Labour Government will just suck up to them. All surveys show the Conservative new intake to be fiercely Eurosceptic and we will have the most Eurosceptic Government since accession.