Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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ray hutstone wrote:#279 The link I posted was to an article by Harry Yorke. I don't know what you're referring to.
Your link is to the telegraph headline story page Ray, it keeps changing. Currently Matt Hancock briefing
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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Made it into Tesco yesterday afternoon. Very short queue to get in, but the usual free-for-all along the aisles.
Just walked past Morrisons and the queue is longer than yesterday.
Lots of old people out and about!
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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What did you think of the ridiculous one way system?
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Karlos- Location: Dover
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Suppose it could be a good idea, but very few took any notice.
Keeping 2 metres apart is impossible with that many people in there.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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If it could be enforced, glad to see the stock levels were starting to recover. The only thing we could not get was pasta so I'll be making my own again today.
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,947
We have the technology. Look at hyperlink for movement within specific areas.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/03/google-coronavirus-tracking-162715"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,003
'...users must have specifically granted Google permission to track their location history.'
So, just turn off 'Location' in settings, and for good measure delete your Google account (if you have one), then delete or deny all Google apps, tracking and spyware, and you're free. Kind of. Never had them anyway.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock wrote:Borisgraph article by Paul Nuki? Who he?
His article's a puff piece for the Center for Countering Digital Hate (yes, US spelling), a kind of censoring machine based in East Finchley and connected to LabourList. Odd thing for the Telegraph to run.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Yes. Unless you think at times like this your lack of privacy is less important than the 'greater good'?
If you want to be seriously more secure turn off Google Apps, keep battery out of phone unless in use, have a 'burner'.
(Though even that won't keep you free from surveillance by phone.)
Just saying.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,808
That is so sad.
I am not frightened for myself but I worry for my next door neighbours, normally she is a theatre nurse but is now on the intensive care ward at QEQM, while her husband is a paramedic so he is also at risk.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
From someone who really does 'know their onions' to borrow a phrase misguidedly used in this context earlier. Not that I expect many to accept the facts contained therein, such is the number of Boris apologists around here.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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Facts you say, from his well placed source he says, wonder if that's his XR chums? and then goes on to asks if any whistleblowers can corroborate his facts!
Fair play though a doctor of philosophy is an improvement on a journalist.
Does he have an allotment? Just wondering where his knowledge of onions comes from.
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Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
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Reginald Barrington wrote:Facts you say, from his well placed source he says, wonder if that's his XR chums? and then goes on to ask if any whistleblowers can corroborate his facts!
Fair play though a doctor of philosophy is an improvement on a journalist.
Does he have an allotment? Just wondering where his knowledge of onions comes from.
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John Buckley
- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
- Posts: 615
The “World Health Organization”,
Is that the same bunch that has the Chinese apologist at its head?
On a par with FIFA and the UN no doubt.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Firstly, just to clear up the reference to knowing one's onions:-
Reginald Barrington wrote:
Another allotment owner presumably, Reggie?
But to more important matters, what a predictable response. Denigrate the speaker rather than provide a rational argument against the points he is making. Oh, he's an environmentalist. Oh and a philosopher. And worse still, a member of the Green Party! He couldn't have worse credentials even if he was pro-European!
And the WHO are presumably in a conspiracy with China are they?
This is a horrific situation we are in and the extent of the nation's suffering, both in human and economic terms, will be strongly influenced the quality, consistency and honesty of our leadership. Do you wonder why people are flouting instructions when 3 weeks ago our PM was insouciantly bragging about how many hands he had shaken in a hospital known to have infected patients?
This is a situation that demands radical transparency from our leadership. Instead we've had lies, inconsistencies and poor judgment from the outset. History will not look kindly on this period, I fear.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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Yes Ray I got the onion reference, my link being an expert in a related field yours being a political activist with an axe to grind who presented no facts, but allegations and asked if anyone could provide the evidence to back them up.
You really think people are flouting the rules because Boris did a bit of handshaking? Those idiots would have stayed home if he hadn't? Are you serious?
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John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
- Posts: 615
“And the WHO are presumably in a conspiracy with China are they?”
Not so much a conspiracy Ray, just in their pockets, as per one of many similar views as that shown below.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,003
Re #293. The XR connection Is perfectly pertinent. XR's language of apocalypse and 'emergency' is all over the video: 'a tsunami of infections and a torrent of deaths', a 'tsunami of suffering that is coming', a 'torrent of death that is coming'. Hardly level-headed stuff, especially from a philosopher, and more especially when the actual published data from the ONS suggests that week on week mortality this year is hardly different from, and for some weeks lower than, previous years. (Do remember there are around 11000 deaths every week in the UK; you work out the dailies.) A couple of other points:
The government 'systematically flouted WHO advice'. Patent nonsense. Advice is advice: you take it or you leave it, but you can't flout it. Different countries have responded differently.
We are 'about to be deceived by [our] own government'. Well blow me down, you mean governments deceive us? Who'd even have thought that?
'When the government doesn't protect, we the people must lead the way'. Leaving aside the question as to who 'the people' are, that's exactly what's happened. Even Dr Read says, 'the lockdown is indeed needed'. Politicians, governments, states and corporates salivate at the opportunity to grab more power, and there's no better justification for a power grab than when 'the people' beg for protection. (See, e.g., the democratically elected NSDAP.)
For me Read is part of the collective hysteria that's overtaken media, government, science and (most of) the rest of us and plunged us into this madness.
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'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus