Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,072
'Gizza job, I could do that'. Yosser Hughes.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,053
Yeah Captain, but army-wise, only if you have, inter alia, a Mid Thigh Pull of 76kg. And that's without having to carry guns.
(Not my real name.)
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,072
8th April
Cases: 5531
Tested: 14,682
Hosp Admissions: 2966
In Hosp: 19,337
Ventilation: 2967
Deaths: 1073
7th October
Cases: 17,540
Tested: 261,336
Hosp Admissions: 641
In Hosp.: 3677
Ventilation: 442
Deaths: 90
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,072
Watching Warrington ICU on TV . Loads of chubby buggers. Just saying .
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,072
Starmer about to 'get off the fence'?
17.00. two week 'circuit breaker'?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 1,937
Captain Haddock wrote:The difference being Jan the mortality rate is down. We are getting much better at treating those who catch it so little chance of NHS (or crematoria
Captain Haddock wrote:The difference being Jan the mortality rate is down. We are getting much better at treating those who catch it so little chance of NHS (or crematoria
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,072
Extraordinary! Loads of support for a 'circuit breaker'!
Middle class salaried people having a further break at home, educating their kids, being brought their on-line ordered goods by poor people whose kids are becoming even thicker with lack of schooling.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 1,937
Captain Haddock wrote:Extraordinary! Loads of support for a 'circuit breaker'!
Middle class salaried people having a further break at home, educating their kids, being brought their on-line ordered goods by poor people whose kids are becoming even thicker with lack of schooling.
https://retailtechinnovationhub.com/home/2020/4/7/british-airways-pilot-takes-on-tesco-online-delivery-role
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,065
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,875
I notice there is no gravestone labelled Contagious, I would rather die from old age than a contagious virus of any kind.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
like wise jan.
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Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 1,937
Spreading untold misery Covid 19 circumvents the world at it’s leisure,
Robbing the population of it’s health and freedom and pleasure,
Taking many lives and creating fear as it moves globally with stealth,
Collapsing countries economies, as they borrow and give it their wealth.
It can read maps, leap great distances, attack lungs and much more,
The Corona virus has intelligence, hidden depths and talents to explore,
In England it knows anyone eating and drinking in pubs to leave alone,
But in Scotland anyone eating and then having drinks, for their sins will atone.
Drinking in pubs before 10pm, at 2 metres distance, we will not be affected,
But one minute past 10 and 1 cm less distance, without mask, will be infected,
Local lockdowns pose no threat as the wily virus has ordnance maps to peruse,
To gain up to date knowledge of the lockdown rules in each area they choose.
This cruel virus knows that groups of six are protected by heaven,
But the ‘experts’ have decreed that it doesn’t apply for just seven,
The length of self isolation changes frequently, just like the weather,
Although Covid 19 will just wait, then strike covertly again wherever.
The pharmaceutical companies search for a vaccine with great glee,
For whatever the outcome, they know it’s great profits they’ll see,
When this damaging virus finally withdraws, (we can’t give it the sack),
Alas, it will just hibernate or go on holiday and keep coming back!
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Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 1,937
Do nothing and nothing happens.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
An interesting insight, for those motivated to read on, into the bluster and misjudgment that has been so typical of this government's handling of the pandemic.
It is worth clicking through into the the government's legal team's response to understand why this particular project was so ridiculously flawed from the outset. Of course, you'll read nothing of this in the main stream media.
https://goodlawproject.org/news/operation-moonshot-update/Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,072
From the Speccie:-
End the Sage secrecy
At the beginning of the Covid-19 crisis it was easy to see why the Prime Minister was so keen to be seen to ‘follow the science’. He had a pandemic plan, designed by past governments, to be guided by the medical facts and expert judgment. There was to be no role for politics. He held press briefings at which he was flanked by the chief medical officer and chief scientific officer, armed with charts and graphs, making it known that everything he did hinged on their advice.
At first, we were not even allowed to know the identity of the 50 men and women who sit on the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage). Now they have become the most influential group of people in the country, whose decisions shape the lives of millions. Yet their deliberations are often a mystery even to cabinet members. In emergencies, this makes sense, but as a day-to-day model of government, it’s deeply problematic. We end up with London telling Manchester to enter the highest tier of restrictions for reasons no one is able to explain properly.
The published data shows cases falling with hospitals in both Manchester and Liverpool able to cope. So why the panic? No. 10 says cases may double in a week. On what evidence? We’re not told. Every day in France figures are published for the use of intensive care units in hospitals in each of its regions to prevent scare stories about capacity running out. When The Spectator contacted the NHS to investigate reports that intensive care units were full, we were told to submit a Freedom of Information request which may or may not be answered in 28 days.
The men and women of Sage cannot be blamed for this. They are asked for their advice and they give it. The original problem was that they disagreed among themselves, so it was hard to produce a consensus. In April, a political whispering campaign blamed Sage for the country going into lockdown too late, at the cost of tens of thousands of lives. We then saw the advisers fight among themselves: Sir Patrick Vallance, the chief scientific officer, said he had wanted an early lockdown but was opposed by Professor Chris Whitty, the chief medical officer.
This time, Sage members are taking the politically safe route. As we now know, on 21 September, they advised the government to call an immediate two-week ‘circuit–breaker’, rather than pursuing the existing strategy of localised and targeted restrictions on civilian life. But a close reading of the Sage advice shows why the Prime Minister took the decision he did. The minutes admit that a two-week lockdown would merely delay the progress of the epidemic by 28 days. Impose one now — as the Welsh government did this week — and by mid-November we would be back to where we are now, except with billions more added to borrowing and many more businesses driven to the wall.
We’re now back to the slogan ‘Protect the NHS’ — which annoys doctors, who quite rightly argue that the NHS is there to protect the public and not vice versa. Worse, if No. 10 asks people to ‘protect’ the NHS by not using it, fewer people will come forward to receive the help they need. They are less likely to seek help for a suspicious lump or a chest pain if they hear politicians talking about the NHS being ‘overwhelmed’.
This is not a theoretical risk. A study this week concluded that we can expect an excess 1,500 deaths from colorectal cancer, 1,300 from lung cancer and 300 from oesophageal cancer. Other studies have estimated that, compared with the five-year average, there have been 2,000 excess deaths so far this year from heart disease and stroke. It has been clear for months that the messaging during the spring lockdown of dissuading people from seeking medical help had a fatal side-effect, and yet the government this week has again been accused of exaggerating the pressure on intensive care units. This is certain to add to the problem.
As late as mid-March, Sage was still advocating a policy of shielding the elderly rather than placing restrictions on everyone. In recent weeks, Professor Graham Medley of the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine has called for another lockdown, co-writing a paper claiming it could save 8,000 lives before Christmas. Yet on 13 March, the day after the first of the Prime Minister’s daily press briefings, he said that, ‘We’re going to have to generate what we call herd immunity… the only way to generate that, in the absence of a vaccine, is for the majority of the population to become infected’.
Given how quickly expert opinion changes, it’s past time to open up the decision-making process. If Covid data is obscured, policies will never be properly scrutinised, leaving potential for big mistakes. No. 10 should order Sage to publish all of the studies that are behind UK government policy. The NHS daily dashboard showing hospital capacity should be made public to stop the scare stories. We are told that these restrictions are necessary, but never really told why. About half the country is now living under Tier 2 or Tier 3 restrictions, with their liberty and in many cases their livelihoods curtailed. They deserve a much better explanation.
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 14,118
I think he is doing a good job he has not had a easy ride from day one .We ARE all in this and need to help each other where we can.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,025
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Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,539
Both Sandwich secondary schools have been shut until the end of the month.
From Sandwich Technology's letter to parents:
4 cases amongst the student body that have required students and staff to self-isolate;
8 further cases amongst the wider school community that have luckily (according to PHE) not required the school to take further action, but have been monitored carefully;
37 (out of 75) teaching staff who are now also required to self-isolate
Are any Dover schools closed?
Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
- Posts: 1,937
We’re not welcome in Scotland now.........
https://apple.news/AaT-ZzJTlQEe6ZIxOUFx8uADo nothing and nothing happens.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,065
Windhover eyes lizard?
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Do nothing and nothing happens.
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