Brian Dixon
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kieth,dont take it to personly,if they are daft enough to,well you know wot happens damage all round.fact of life.
Keith Sansum1
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I can accept those brian
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Pilot badger culls set to go ahead
The culls were postponed while licence conditions were met, but can now go ahead, the environment secretary has announced
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2013/feb/27/pilot-badger-culls Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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This was on the BBC news.
To put it mildly a great shame and completely illogical the badger sets are protected but it is OK to kill the badgers that live in them.
They still do not know who is responsible first for the TB the cow or the badger. Why not inoculate the badgers and or the cows against the disease, sadly that costs money which nobody wants to spend.
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"[environment secretary Owen]Paterson, told the National Farmers' Union conference in Birmingham that bovine tuberculosis was "the biggest challenge facing us at the moment". He said the disease - which led to the slaughter of 26,000 cattle in 2011 - had cost the taxpayer £500m in the last 10 years, and that this could rise to £1bn in the next decade if the disease went unchecked."
So Jan, as £1bn pounds 'could be saved', something could be done.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Agreed Tom, does common sense ever prevail with any large body be they government, union or big business, all to often they refuse to see beyond the end of their noses.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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oh dear this will upset some forum members,still life go's on as one says.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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pity that won't go on for the badgers, we are losing a lot of our countryside bit by bit, now the nations favourite animal is considered surplus to requirements.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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yes howard,broke the badger = sporen,you can blame those scottish coves for the demise of the badger.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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so sad
and misinformed
another thing thisgovt has got wrong
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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oh dear jan they are a bit pricey arnt they.
kieth,you cant allways get what you want,goverment powers and all that.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Misinformed govt
wiping out our wildlife without reason
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Good to hear that the Badgers have been granted a Pilot's licence, so they can be out of harms way when the expected cull begins, let's hope their aircraft aren't armed as they may want to settle a few old scores
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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barryws,they are all karmakarsi pilot licenses.
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Letters, May 4th...
"What about hedgehogs (Letters, 2 May). A first sighting today of a road accident hedgehog since the badger population explosion made a hedgehog survival a nightmare. I now treasure sightings of queen bumblebees, also less frequent because of hungry badgers who turn out their nests to eat the bee pupae.
Deb Nicholson
Barrow Gurney, Somerset"
Letters, May 6th...
"If badgers are indeed responsible for the decline of hedgehogs and bumblebees (Letters, 4 May), they are clearly cunning and devious enough to play the waiting game, living in balance with these species since the ice age, biding their time and waiting to launch their attack just as we began to spray pesticides and pave over our gardens.
Stuart Darmon
Theddingworth, Leicestershire"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2013/may/05/caring-carbonara-badgers-bumblebeesIgnorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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true
we still have to have the evidence that badgers are a problem
there are countering arguements by scientists
but the govt has sanctioned the killing of badgers
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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they must be badgered into changing their minds.
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Eye have read...
"Bovine tuberculosis (bTB) continues to spread among cattle in England and Wales, where badger culling is not used as part of a strategy to prevent cattle becoming infected. In the Republic of Ireland, by contrast, where badger culling has been carried out for many years, figures suggest bTB in cattle is now in steady decline.
Since 2000, the number of cattle slaughtered in the republic for reasons of bTB has fallen from 40,000 head a year to 18,500 in 2012. Over the same period in England and Wales, the number has risen from 8,000 to more than 38,000 annually.
The most encouraging aspect of the Irish badger cull is that no significant "perturbation" effect - what happens when diseased badgers disturbed by a cull leave an area and infect cattle elsewhere - has been observed.
It was evidence of perturbation that halted culling trials in England in the early noughties when badgers were being caught in cages and shot - although there has always been suspicion that this was partly caused by saboteurs who disrupted the trials by releasing trapped badgers from the cages.
Given the Irish success, the Welsh Assembly's bTB policy of relying entirely on development of an effective vaccine for cattle and/or badgers - even though neither vaccine is close to being ready for practical use - looks increasingly untenable. In England, meanwhile, preparations are underway for a badger cull to begin in June in two of three trial areas in Gloucestershire, Somerset or Dorset.
The method being proposed to cull badgers in England is very different, however, to the one that has been successful in Ireland.
There, badgers are caught in a "stop restraint" (a wire hoop that catches a badger by it's neck) after which it is shot. The use of stop restraints in England is prohibited by the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981. Instead it is proposed that English badgers will be shot in the open.
The Irish call is also "reactive" in that it is carried out in a limited area around any farm which has more than three cattle infected with bTB. In 2012, this led to roughly 7,000 badgers being culled over 5 percent of Ireland's farmland. In England the cull will be "proactive" and seek to reduce bTB infection over broader selected areas. Another key difference is that the Irish cull is financed and organised by the Irish government (within a surprisingly modest budget of 5 million euros a year) whereas English trials will be paid for and run by groups of farmers.
Despite significant differences between the two culling programmes, the Irish results give new grounds for optimism in England that culling badgers could significantly reduce bTB in Cattle.
New Bio-Waste Spreader"
issue 1338
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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to badger or not to badger that is the question,but whats the answer.alas poor brock I new him well.but we all here to do and die.
