howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I have to agree with the writer here in that visa free travel is much more important than the colour of our passports.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/comment/blue-passports-nostalgia-gone-mad/Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,987
Would love to know when (if ever) we needed visas for France or they needed them to come here ?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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The only times I have needed a visa in Europe was in the old Eastern Bloc countries and that was only a cash cow for the embassies here. The fact that you got one back by return of post shows that they didn't check up on anyone. For the rest of Europe people could buy a yearly one at the post office for 15 bob no questions asked.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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I will stick with my burgundy one thanks.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Dug out my last two expired passports and much prefer the softback burgundy one to the hardback black one. I wonder if the new blue one will be hard or softback?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Telegraph the backwoodsmen want to take us back in time to the benefit of nobody.
Foreigners should be charged £10 to buy a visa to get into the UK once Britain has left the EU, the Government has been told. A 14 page report submitted to ministers by a leading group of Tory Eurosceptic MPs urges them to adopt a visa scheme similar to those operating in Australia and the USA to allow visitors from the European Union and other countries to make multiple visits to the UK over a two year period. The report by the European Reform Group of 100 Tory MPs is being considered by ministers. The group’s work has previously been used to pitch roll for Government policy. Next month the Government will publish an immigration white paper setting out immigrants will be treated after Brexit. However the paper will not go into detail into visa arrangements after Brexit. The ERG report, prepared by Tory MP Craig Mackinlay, says Britain should adopt a similar plan to the US which charges US$14 (£10) for a visa waiver that allows multiple entry over two years. The Australian visitor visa costs Aus$20 (£11). t says: “We could adopt the US system and apply it to a visa waiver scheme for visitors from the EU and other countries we have a visa waiver programme with. Such schemes are commonplace internationally."
The system would apply to other countries which already offer a visa waiver system for British visitors. “Charging visitors £10 a time would raise significant sums. For example, 25.5 million EU visitors a year paying £10 and applying a time-limited multiple entry use within the fee could provide up to £150 million annually. “Given the Borders budget is currently some £550 million, moving into line with what other nations are doing would fund a material increase in the Borders budget.”
It adds: "In addition, the visa waver system would have significant security benefits. The Government should increase its funding for the UK Border Force, paid for by a visa waiver system charge.
"This would enable investments in new technologies and innovation to ensure that Britain is ready on day one for Brexit and that the border is as strong as it can be."
In a forward, the MPs of the ERG said they backed Mr Mackinlay's idea for "a new UK ESTA system for travellers". The MPs say: "The EU is investigating implementing its own version of charges on travellers; the USA already does, the UK should reciprocate and in doing so raise £150m a year to invest in our borders. "A new modern digital border funded by those that use it would save travellers time, help keep the UK open to genuine visitors while giving the UK the information it needs to exclude those that are not."
They added: "Craig Mackinlay’s paper sets out that although we are leaving the EU we are not leaving Europe, co-operation with our neighbours on borders will remain. With a new advanced border the UK can gather intelligence and cooperate with the EU to maintain our collective security and tackle the scourges of people trafficking, terrorism and organised criminality." A Home Office spokesman said: “After we leave the EU, we will put in place an immigration system which works in the best interests of the whole of the UK. “We are carefully considering the options for the future immigration system and will set out our initial proposals shortly.”
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Guest 1997- Registered: 3 Mar 2017
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Our UKIP turned Tory neighbour is frighteningly stupid.
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Button- Location: Dover
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Didn't Mr Elphicke suggest something similar a while back? Good news, when you think about it, for a McDonald's drive-thru on the A20.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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'Leaving the EU gives us a unique opportunity to restore our national identity and forge a new path for ourselves in the world,' said Home Office Minister Brandon Lewis. 'That is why I am delighted to announce that the British passport will be returning to the iconic blue and gold design after we have left the European Union in 2019.' (From the Telegraph article linked in post #1.)
No surprises that the above quote from the expensive Tory member for Great Yarmouth is so much nationalist flimflammery. Turns out that, after all, we could have had a blue one all the time:
'There is no Brussels regulation which states that EU countries' passports have to be a certain colour, simply a legally non-binding European Council resolution from 1981 which recommends burgundy red.'
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42468938'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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a vain attempt by nationalist brexit knobs, who are single minded morons.
Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
- Posts: 450
So I am a moron?
John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
- Posts: 615
Gary39 wrote:So I am a moron?
Apparently so Gary, and a Brexit knob as well don’t forget!
But as it’s xmas, let’s just assume that Brian is slightly misguided on these matters.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I have looked up the condition and "Brexit Knob" can be treated with a course of antibiotics with no lasting ill effects.
John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:I have looked up the condition and "Brexit Knob" can be treated with a course of antibiotics with no lasting ill effects.
That’s very true Howard. Unlike “EU Knob” that is apparently untreatable, due for some strange reason to the addled brain of the patient.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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misguided hahahahaha, merry Christmas you buggers. lol
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Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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So in other words over 1/2 the population of Uk are morons and knobs :)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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gary39, only those who voted out.the other 70% are ok.
Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
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So because I voted out makes me a moron and a knob.. Thank you Brian for insight of your views with people who do not agreed with you.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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gary39,less than 60% of uk population voted, make up your own mind on the vote.