Guest 2756- Registered: 2 Aug 2018
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I am a firm believer that apologies are most welcomed in situations of unintentional arising.
Is it therefore appropriate that Manchester police and social services, medical services, and the entire system including all citizens advice services, have now taken the patronising, arrogant, and obviously pointless action of declaring their failings to protect a great many young children and their families from years of disgusting perverted vile sexual abuse for which they now wish to ‘APOLOGISE’ for the ‘MISTAKES’ and ‘ERRORS’ in ‘TRAIN OF THOUGHT’ that has allowed the ‘KNOWN IDENTITIES AND ADDRESSES’ of paedophiles to commit their crimes for 20 years unchallenged, none of whom have been arrested to this day.
Should this apology be accepted as an apology???
Feedback and comments on this issue should prove to be most interesting. I will kick things off with the most obvious and worst consequence of this to the entire U.K. population... the complete domination and control over all media outlets upon which we all rely to inform and update us on current affairs.
Manchester is merely the tip of the iceberg. The entire country has been abused in similar fashion by our hierarchy and law lords for a very long time. So why the hell do our media not inform and warn us of this? FEAR!!! TOTAL AND UTTER TERROR!!!
Anybody who challenges this domination will be crushed and silenced as openly proved in the case of Tommy Robinson. A right wing gob shite a lot of you regard him as attempting to generate racial hatred. It is the government that chose to throw in the racial card so they had a cover to crush Robinson with citizen support. The true reason for crushing Robinson was his defiance and courage to ‘CORRECTLY REPORT’ to us the sickening abuses our government was allowing to be inflicted on our children. All other journalists are naturally terrified of consequence should they report the truth.
Unless my memory is on its way out I recall that not so long ago there was a brief statement claiming none of our public services dared to act against known offenders for fears of being accused of racial discrimination. None of us are aware the nationality of offenders as none have been arrested so form your own assumptions, but by nature of their own words, the prominent creator of racial hatred and tensions in this country are our authorities and it is utilised to cover their actions whilst they continue to inflict their abuses upon us. SICK SICK SICK IS THE SYSTEM THAT GOVERNS US, WAKE UP PEOPLE.
And the final thought goes out heartfelt to the endless amount of victims and their families who have been abused by paedophiles and then abused by our authorities and who have now been told our authorities are now sorry for their abuse and now want the victims to accept assistance from their abusers to help them through counselling. Any victim with any sense and their families should run an absolute mile. God bless you all.
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Guest 2756- Registered: 2 Aug 2018
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And to be completely frank and honest, based on past comments from certain authorities, the many many years this abuse has been allowed to continue unchallenged has been recorded and known about in departments all over the country but all have remained silent. There is nothing more clear that all authorities have definitely been ordered from above to keep their gobs shut. The nucleus of central government have been aware the thousands of children were being seriously and disgustingly abused but were happy for it to continue.
Personally if I had any knowledge any child was being abused I would not be able to sleep at night until the child was safe. Our law lords have forced the continuation of the abuse. Assess as you will what kind of people are ruling over us cos it ain’t rocket science. Worst still these people are throwing it in our faces and laughing at us. A prime example is the M.P Keith vaz. Openly reported to the public in a comical manner known as Vaseline to his associates for his ability to escape justice. Recently stepped down as head of the select committee after being exposed in some perverted sexual crap. At his family home his wife commented she was very angry with him and he would have to sleep on the sofa. Are you having a laugh or what. Mind you she is well used to such perverted weirdness from her husband. Two of his very close drinking buddies many moons ago were Greville Janner who was allowed his paedophile life and not exposed until he was basically dead and Frank Beck the former head of a children’s home eventually convicted and killed himself in prison. Vaseline slipped the net and ended up head of the select committee. How did that happen. Obviously had sufficient perverted shit over the right people in the right places. As a nation we have become a spineless waste of skin and are contented for paedoohiles and sex monsters to govern us in the hope our own children will be left alone if we remain silent. What a very sad and sorry state of affairs.
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Keith Sansum1
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I will only comment to say I find it difficult to understand if agencies were aware of the abuse why they let it go on
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Jan Higgins
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My thoughts exactly Keith, surely there can be no plausible excuse.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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This is where my sympathy starts to drain on agencies if they were aware.
For what reason would any agency Not want to take action
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John Buckley
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I note that, in general, the media describes the perpetrators collectively as “Asian men”, which quite frankly is an insult to the followers of Buddhism and Hinduism etc., when we all know that it is primarily Pakistani Muslims that are involved. But let’s keep turning a blind eye eh?
The people at the very top of this horrendous scandal should be named and shamed, charged with a dereliction of duty and at the very least stripped of their over inflated pensions. I wouldn’t hold my breath though!
Weird Granny Slater
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Laboliques wrote:So why the hell do our media not inform and warn us of this?
It's touching to want to give 'Robinson' the credit for bravely and single-handedly investigating, publicising and delivering justice to perpetrators of child sexual abuse. But he was very late to that particular party, and already drunk on self-serving political opportunism by then. The truth, as usual, was to be found in the kitchen, soberly sipping the filtered tap-water.
Regular members will know I don't favour 'mainstream' media, but I do read and watch it; credit where it's due and all that. Thus I can safely say that in order for you to ask the question I quote above you must have had your head in a sack for the last decade or so. See, e.g., from 2011 on Rotherham:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/revealed-conspiracy-of-silence-on-uk-sex-gangs-gpg5vqsqz9h
the author had been investigating other Northern rings (e.g. Keighley) since 2003 before publishing that piece.
Or this, on Derby, from 2010:
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8157739/Asian-gang-prowled-streets-searching-for-rape-victims.html
It's been all over the print and broadcast media ever since. Check it out, if you really want to know.
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John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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At least this radio presenter has got a modicum of reality, shame that he’s probably in a minority amongst his fellow brethren.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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I think you're rather damning with faint praise there, JB. It's so far from 'a modicum' that he was near exploding with frustration and clearly weary of having to explain it yet again. That's an anger born of renunciation.
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John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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Yes WGS, I was underplaying his annoyance and frustration somewhat. He’s actually on the ball with all that he said, quite an honest and accurate appraisal really.
I wonder if any of the Imams would agree with him?
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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That man on the phone would defend his fellow countrymen out of pure ignorance or simple denial of what happened, maybe one of those who thought women were of little significance and are there simply for men to do as they demand.
I am sure most Imams would agree with the radio presenter the same as most condemn the terrorist atrocities, the problem is we only hear from them when there is trouble.
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John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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You’re probably right Jan, but personally this is just yet another reason why I have no respect whatsoever for our so called “establishment”. This scandal has been going on for at least thirty years and for those kids to be sacrificed in lieu of “community cohesion” by senior police officers tells me a lot about the true state of this country.
Like him or loathe him, but Tommy Robinson has been hung out to dry for doing very little wrong compared with the top brass involved in this matter.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Come on, JB, that's fan-boy stuff. He jeopardised a criminal trial for political reasons. How would that have served the victims? If you want radical investigative journalism, 'citizen' or otherwise, look elsewhere. Robinson's only interest is, and ever was, Robinson. If it's true that he spoke to Julian Assange in Belmarsh then maybe he picked up some tips on how to do proper journalism and learned what it's like to be a real prisoner of the state.
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John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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I wonder WGS if, like most people, you actually know that much about Tommy Robinson, apart from what the MSM etc., with their own agenda and lies have shown and informed you of? I’m personally not too bothered about TR one way or the other, ( certainly not a fan! ) but it would appear that his character has been somewhat falsely smeared quite often by the media and so you have to wonder why?
I doubt for one minute that you could bring yourself to sit through the video below ( admittedly it is fairly long! ) but if anyone is interested it at least does show another side to the story.
But apart from TR, I would be interested to have your thoughts on the people that failed to act for numerous years when being fully aware of what was happening to these young girls.
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Actually JB, though I do drink from the 'MSM' well, I generally don't swallow, and always need to wash out my mouth with refreshment from other sources afterwards. So I know rather more than you might imagine about 'Robinson', and probably more than is healthy.
As for 'the people that failed to act', as far as I'm aware a few fell on their swords after some 'encouragement', but most suffered little or not at all, while whistleblowers lost their jobs. This is the way of things in the best of all possible worlds. For the same reasons that Anthony Charles Lynton Blair and other WMD fantasists aren't banged up in cells.
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John Buckley- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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Petition to release the Home Office's Grooming Gang Review in full.
The Government is refusing to release official research on the characteristics of grooming gangs, claiming it is not in the “public interest”. ( yeah, right........we know who’s interest it’s in! )
We, the British public, demand the release of the official research on grooming gangs undertaken by the Government in full. It has been revealed earlier this year that an almost 19,000 suspected child sexual exploitation victims were identified by local authorities in just one year.
Sajid Javid promised the review as Home Secretary in July 2018, pledging that there would be “no no-go areas of inquiry”.
“I will not let cultural or political sensitivities get in the way of understanding the problem and doing something about it,” he said at the time. ( and then uncrossed his fingers from behind his back! )
If anyone’s interested in trying to help release the full findings of this Govt., report, please click on the link below:-
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/300239Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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Do we really need "official research" to be made public, surely most of us know the characteristics of the grooming gangs that have made it into the news headlines...........Revolting men who like to provide young female teenagers who do not belong to the men's ethnic or religious background.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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In fairness to Sajid Javid, he never said the material would be released. But then he never said it wouldn't be released either. He just used the normal evasive, self-serving language of a regular politician.
But it's a measure both of the state of our democracy and of the political class's view of the electorate that we're considered grown-up enough to have an interest in, e.g., where Al de Pfeffel spent his holiday, or that he's having a child outside marriage, but not in the findings of a major investigation into organised criminal activity.
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