Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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All you need do is ask yourselves this, is the UN working?
is the UN value for money?
is china conducting an economic war on the west with unfair trade.
I think Trump see things a little different from the cotton wool protected politicians on the state payroll.
rocking the boat and breaking the china, is all normal for Trump
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of Wikipedia.
Legal affairs and bankruptcies
Main article: Legal affairs of Donald Trump
As of 2016, Trump and his businesses had been involved in more than 3,500 state and federal legal actions. He or one of his companies was the plaintiff in 1,900 cases and the defendant in 1,450. With Trump or his company as plaintiff, more than half the cases have been against gamblers at his casinos who had failed to pay off their debts. With Trump or his company as a defendant, the most common type of case involved personal injury cases at his hotels. In cases where there was a clear resolution, Trump's side won 451 times and lost 38.[166][167]
Trump has never filed for personal bankruptcy, but his hotel and casino businesses have been declared bankrupt six times between 1991 and 2009 in order to re-negotiate debt with banks and owners of stock and bonds.[168][169] Because the businesses used Chapter 11 bankruptcy, they were allowed to operate while negotiations proceeded. Trump was quoted by Newsweek in 2011 saying, "I do play with the bankruptcy laws – they're very good for me" as a tool for trimming debt.[170][171]
The six bankruptcies were the result of over-leveraged hotel and casino businesses in Atlantic City and New York: Trump Taj Mahal (1991), Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino (1992), Plaza Hotel (1992), Trump Castle Hotel and Casino (1992), Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts (2004), and Trump Entertainment Resorts (2009).[172][173] Trump said, "I've used the laws of this country to pare debt ... We'll have the company. We'll throw it into a chapter. We'll negotiate with the banks. We'll make a fantastic deal. You know, it's like on The Apprentice. It's not personal. It's just business."[141]
A 2016 analysis of Trump's business career by The Economist concluded that his "... performance [from 1985 to 2016] has been mediocre compared with the stock market and property in New York", noting both his successes and bankruptcies.[174] A subsequent analysis by The Washington Post concluded that "Trump is a mix of braggadocio, business failures, and real success", calling his casino bankruptcies the "most infamous flop" of his business career.[175]
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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true Howard.
he rolls over and no one gets paid unless they Deal !!
he's doing it now over trade agreements and the climate agreement.
Weird Granny Slater
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Keith Bibby wrote:how can an idiot make 10 billion??
Well, perhaps an idiot can't, but a personality with a dangerous mix of narcissism, psychopathy and Machiavellianism can. I bet the voters never imagined they'd get three presidents for the price of one.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:Well, perhaps an idiot can't, but a personality with a dangerous mix of narcissism, psychopathy and Machiavellianism can. I bet the voters never imagined they'd get three presidents for the price of one.
like him or not, the American people voted for him in large numbers, this could only of happen because the established politicians did not deliver. let that be a lesson to the UK .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Keith Bibby wrote:like him or not, the American people voted for him in large numbers, this could only of happen because the established politicians did not deliver. let that be a lesson to the UK .
True to a large extent as the Democrats lumbered the electorate with Hilary Clinton so that many normal Democrat voters stayed at home whilst many people living in disadvantaged communities who had never previously voted turned out in force for Donald Trump.
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Trump or Sanders would have been a very different story, I venture.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I think burrny sanders would have maybe pulled it off, Howard. it will be an interesting 4 years?
But when I look at Trump and his Brassy ways ,I have to remind my self, he is a new yorker and normal for an American.
Captain Haddock
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I fail to understand the drama involving Trump visiting the UK, in the past the Romanian dictator Ceausescu was accorded a full state visit others like Robert Mugabe and General Pinochet have been here. Groups are threatening rallies all sorts to disrupt the visit of a democratically elected President.
Brian Dixon
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the difference is simple howard trumps a turnip the rest where spuds.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Most Americans, including their President, do not actually give a toss what the inhabitants of a small island, just off the Europe think.
They do however rightly view disrespect of the office of POTUS with almost the same fanaticism that they view disrespect of the Stars and Stripes flag. It's things like that which bind them together as a nation. Whereas we all used to rush out of the cinema before the National Anthem was played, our American cousins view standing for the same with hand on heart as an important symbol of alleigence to everything they hold literally sacred (one nation under God etc.)
Protests will rightly be viewed with contempt by most Americans, whatever their political persuasion, and they will mostly find even less reasons to visit or trade with a country apparently full of people who have 'dissed' their President.
John Buckley likes this
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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self inflicted
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Most Americans will not be bothered about us or anything that happens here, just seeing us as a quaint little country with a big clock in its capital city. Any thoughts of a trade deal between our two nations is rather fanciful and would involve us getting the worst deal.
I suppose that it says rather a lot about our country that such protests are allowed whilst people in Barcelona get brutalised for having an opinion on the say so of the Spanish Government and the EU top brass condone it.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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The only way I can find anything to read which makes me smile about the Donald nowadays is following his exploits on BBC Pidgin (Yes, it does exist and YOUR license is paying for it!)
https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/world-41350799"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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He seems to have slipped into to the world of self parody.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41695667Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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UK Terror attacks 2016 - 1
UK Terror attacks 2017 - 5
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents_in_Great_Britain#2010s
Mmmmmm. Appears like 500% increase to me?
Only (sic) 36 killed
so far this year due to terrorism, though to be fair, not all were by Mohammedan fanatics, one was by some Welsh nutter.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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so now billy no mates.
