Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
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Are there any under threat??
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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Serious question? The whole of our history and society is now under threat (and you can't have one without the other).
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Enough of the pedantry. We are truly f*£ked.
The usual suspects, who have worked through Animal Rights, Extinction Rebellion, and now Black Lives Matter are attempting to subvert most of the things which most of us support. The rule of law. Action through democratic votes.
The barbarians are within the gates.
The Khymer Rouge had the same idea with rewriting history and Year Zero.
As Dr Heinz Kiosk so memorability said 'We are all guilty'.
G K Chesterton was even more prescient.
Since we no longer believe in something we will believe in anything.
The 'left' having been unable to take over via Corbyn have moved on. 'Direct Action' has always been the subtext. BLM is merely the latest head of the hydra.
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,798
I would not have said our history is under threat, just the very public reminder and glorification of when our ancestors were in the wrong.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Pathetic Jan. Just pathetic.
I know pride is one of the deadly sins but are you not 'proud' of your family, your town, your life or do you spend your whole life in self loathing, feeling guilty about how you/we/they could have done better?
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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https://uk.gofundme.com/f/ukblm-fund
£3/4 Millon so far.
DO give money. Just how much do you hate yourself? (And why?)
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,798
Captain Haddock wrote:Pathetic Jan. Just pathetic.
I know pride is one of the deadly sins but are you not 'proud' of your family, your town, your life or do you spend your whole life in self loathing, feeling guilty about how you/we/they could have done better?
Better to be "pathetic" than blinkered, I did not realise that being open minded about about our past history was so wrong. No interest at all in your funding link unlike yourself.
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,002
Sorry, but I wasn't aware that it was the ALF, XR or BLM that just shut healthy people up in their homes, threw the elderly ill out of hospitals into care homes, regulated away freedom of movement, freedom of assembly and freedom of worship, banned simple joys like hugging your grandchildren or sipping a pint of beer in a pub garden after a long walk in the hills, empowered the police to arrest you for sitting on a beach, forced millions into unemployment, wrecked educations, induced a paranoid fear of the passer-by, and sent half the population into a hysterical frenzy of mask-wearing and bog-roll accumulation. As for the rule of law, that went out the window with ministerial diktat. I don't recall a democratic vote on it all either. The organisation that's 'subverted' our way of life is the one in power right now; the one for which the only value is that of mere survival. BLM is small fry compared to that government-directed pandemonium.
IMO that energy would have been better put to use in mass protests against 'lockdown', as we have nothing without the liberties we've lost. But, here's the thing: any such would have been crushed by the police. Which should tell you something about modern politics and the Conservative Party. The Left's already arrived, and it's dressed in blue. Do you really think Johnson would have won London - twice - otherwise?
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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The aim of a joke is not to degrade the human being, but to remind him that he is already degraded. Orwell.
Still 'pathetic' in the true sence of the word.
Off to watch Little Britain, never found it funny but apparently no longer on IPlayer.
Do you see how it works yet?
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,696
Cap'n
Is blackface ever acceptable?
Should we really be celebrating the subjugation of people for commercial gain just because once it was deemed to be ok?
Do morals and ethics move with the times to reflect changing mores and sensibilities?
Are the political fringes really that scary? Or are they what they have always been? A noisy, irritating, boorish minority.
Whilst I don't agree with WGS on many things I do agree that we should be much more worried about the mob in government than the mob on the street. Johnson & his cabal distrust the parliamentary process and their own backbenchers to such an extent that they are passing regulations by Order in Council to avoid scrutiny.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Q1. Is blackface ever acceptable?
Errrr yes you stupid stupid person.
Really can't be bothered replying to the rest.
Remember my comments on Slavery Museum in Liverpool?
STILL bloody amusing.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,696
Clearly touched a nerve as you have resorted to ad hominum insults.
Is the persona you adopt for this forum and the one you adopt for your twittering pontifications starting to chafe?
Shame you can't send little boys up chimneys any more, or have a gang of indentured servants running around Marlinspike Hall to tend to your every whim?
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
I've often thought that this forum would benefit from a 'laugh' symbol to add to the simple 'like' option. In view of the turgid, pompous, self-righteous guff I've just read, I'm now convinced of it.
Really can't be bothered to say anything else.
Pablo- Registered: 21 Mar 2018
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My favorite is
Karlos- Location: Dover
- Registered: 1 Oct 2012
- Posts: 2,478
Wasn't expecting this thread to become quite so heated.
To answer my own question, perhaps the Rifles Monument would be a candidate as it was controversial even when erected in the 19th century.
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Karlos wrote:Wasn't expecting this thread to become quite so heated.
To answer my own question, perhaps the Rifles Monument would be a candidate as it was controversial even when erected in the 19th century.
You know me, Karl, old chap.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,798
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Or, most likely in this case, both.
...... or are pissed. 