Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
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whilst we may not agree peter(thank you howard for your confirmation)
to answer your other points;
1; I don't believe owt on TV
2;i dont get papers so couldnt get it from there
3; bus talk is often funny but another thing to believe, although people often speak so loud about things its hard not
to over hear
apart from that peter im sure your a nice guy
thanks again howard
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Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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Peter.
It gives me no pleasure to prove to you, that the poor ARE getting poorer.
My wife is disabled and I am her carer.
That makes me neither employed or un-employed.
With petrol, utilities and food, all gone and going up, coupled with benefits being taken away from us, with no increase in my pension this year and having it frozen for the next 2 years.
We are definitely getting poorer.
PS. The wife has had her Hydro-Therapy, Tai Chi therapy and travel tokens taken away.
We still have sky but given up HD.
We stopped smoking, don't visit towns like Maidstone etc. any more or local towns as much as we used to because petrol is too dear.
We are waiting for my wife to be dragged into having her disability disputed yet again and looking at the possibility of having to give up our council house, in the same street that I was born in, because my children have grown up and we will have to start paying for empty bedrooms.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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i am hearing the same from other people in a similar position, a sad reflection on a so called civilised society.
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"...all the options are complicated so often it pays, quite literally, to get help and advice. A specialist welfare rights agency will not take long to check your entitlement to available benefits. Be wary of taking advice from friends, neighbours, relatives or anyone else - everyone's circumstances are different; always seek specialist welfare rights advice."
http://www.carers.org/benefits-top-tips
Fight fire with fire.
Ignorance is bliss, bliss is happiness, I am happy...to draw your attention to the possible connectivity in the foregoing.
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Tom.
That is sound advice and people should take note of what you say.
For me, I have been a carer for many years, being a carer for my mother and father before my wife, so I know the pitfalls that can be so demoralizing to genuine people falling into the benefits trap.
We are now waiting for a visit from a doctor, who has never met my wife nor been allowed to read her notes to declare she is fit to work. I expect we will lose our benefits and have to appeal, again, which will take about a year but we will win it because my wife is a genuine disabled person.
The problem is, that because I look after her and the house, she is able to get around and in public, she does not look disabled.
The truth is that no-one sees what goes on behind the scenes by them and their carers, to help their loved ones, live as much like abled people as they can.
The last time this happened to us, the offending doctor asked my wife to lift her legs up, knowing my wife would do her best to lift her legs up, no matter what pain and consequences would follow, I told the doctor that she could not lift her legs up, he asked me to get a towel from the bathroom and when I left the bedroom, he proceeded to lift my wife's legs up for her. This undid all the good work I had done getting her to a good stage of ability and left her bedridden for the next 6 weeks and took me another 6 months to get her back to her original stage. Oh, and he declared her not disabled and we had our benefits removed.
If this happens again I will have the doctor charged with assault.
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Guest 698- Registered: 28 May 2010
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Gary I remember well the email conversations we had at the time and I tried to put you in touch with Charlie as I agreed that your experience was a travesty. I do sympathise and wish there was something I could do.
In issuing a general challenge to provide data to back up Keith and Howard's assertions I was not denying that there are many deserving cases such as yours, where living standards are declining and you are under pressure from the faceless bureaucrats.
Please don't paint me as an insensitive right-winger, Keith, cos I ain't.
I'm an optimist. But I'm an optimist who takes my raincoat - Harold Wilson
Guest 710- Registered: 28 Feb 2011
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On your last point Gary, best to explain to this new quack why you cannot leave him/her alone with you wife should they request that you leave the room.
There are doctors and there are doctors, even within the ATOS scheme, so things could be entirely different this time.
IF!!! You are put through the same palaver you do have your previous overturning on appeal to stand you both in good stead.
Stay positive Gary, what you do and how you both make the best of things is the important thing, but no doubt you are entitled to let the world know that you are a 'carer' and not a miracle worker.
All the best.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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A good and thought-provoking posting Gary - and I am sorry that you got "shafted" the last time your wife was assessed.
I don't understand why she needs to be reassessed every so often, if her condition isn't going to improve, it seems really pointless and unethical.
Jean, my other half, always looks as if there's nothing wrong with her when we go out, but it has always taken a real struggle to look the way she does; she is registererd disabled but doesn't want to look it.
Sometimes if she feels kind of O.K. she will struggle down and up the stairs at Blakes, but it really buggers her up, getting back up. Her kidney failure is debilitating anyway and now her heart isn't working very well, just a few steps wears her out, but, like your wife I'm sure, remains cheerful - as far as she can.
Good luck Gary.
Roger
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# 1759...It is unfortunate that the ``elite``few resort to the `two ronnies/ cleese`....`I look down on him`.....
`I know my place`scenario to boost their flagging ego`s........
Humiliation for laughs is a dangerous game........
So the super-rich are not all Tax dodging egomaniacs after all.
232 philanthropic donations of £ one million and more were made last year by individuals and
corporations.........up from 174 last year and the highest for five years.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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should have started a new thread reg, although "elite, generous, good eggs" doesn't quite have the same ring.
Jan Higgins
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The majority of us ladies with a disability will do our utmost to hide that fact when out or in the company of strangers, so I know exactly how Gary's and Roger's respective wives feel.
I am lucky I suppose I have not had to be assessed by a stranger, possibly because my paralysis is not reversible. My daughter-in-law says the benefit lot are tick box doctors, I believe she is still waiting (after about a year) for her appeal to be heard even though her local council have a detailed care plan in place for her.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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good luck garyc
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Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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Keith.
It has been announced today that everyone between the ages of 16 & 64 on DLA will be re-tested. That's nearly 1million disabled people and will take 6 years to achieve. Bearing in mind that the majority are genuine and the minority are not.
The cost of this operation will far out way any benefits saved.
I am well behind obliterating all fraud.
So I have to ask this question, why are the disabled being treated with such verve and by at least 2 large expensive companies, when a team of only 6 people have been set up, to look into illegal Tax Fraud?
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the obvious answer is that the disabled don't have the clout to fight back and it is a vote winner, everyone knows someone swinging the lead and inevitably people start to think it is a wholesale thing which the government will exploit and play to peoples prejudices.
Guest 671- Registered: 4 May 2008
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I agree Howard but disabled people and their carers are not stupid.
Anyone who believes this action is right or that it is about economic recovery is sad and stupid.
"My New Year's Resolution, is to try and emulate Marek's level of chilled out, thoughtfulness and humour towards other forumites and not lose my decorum"
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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it's all about politics gary and playing to the gallery, you are right about the cost saving once appeals are taken into account it will actually cost more than paying out dla.
i know personally of one person that was undergoing chemotherapy and was too weak to travel far, was told that if he didn't turn up for the assessment then his benefits would be stopped.
caring britain 2012.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The disabled have nothing to fear, the fakers and frauds do and quite right too. The government is spot on doing this.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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There you go garyc barryw gives you how tories think.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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full marks for keeping a straight face when posting that barry, atos would not their contract renewed if that was the case.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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whoopie,hoorah,i have just joined the elite greedy pigs,just been notifies i will be getting an extra 5p a week on my carers allowance.whoopie.
