General Election in Italy
- 4 March 2018 11:42340427Immigration one of the big issues unsurprisingly as the Country is a main staging post for Africans looking for a better life. As per usual it is unlikely that one grouping or party will get anywhere near a majority and weeks or months of negotiations will take place before a Government is formed.
https://news.sky.com/story/italian-election-voters-go-to-the-polls-11275468 - Captain Haddock
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4 March 2018 12:37340431Interestingly the Irish (pop <5million) Govt has ambitious plans to make Ireland even more 'vibrant'.
By 2040 we expect that an additional one million people will live in Ireland, an additional two-thirds of a million people will work here.
http://www.gov.ie/en/project-ireland-2040
Somehow I can't see this ending well ........................."The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - 4 March 2018 12:54340434loads of Africa Irish going around saying Bejesurs !Guest 1713 and howard mcsweeney1 like this
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4 March 2018 13:31340444Keith Bibby wrote:loads of Africa Irish going around saying Bejesurs !
Can blue men sing the whites?
Guest 1713 likes this"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - 4 March 2018 19:39340469This thread states General Election in Italy doesn't it? How are posts #2, #3 & #4 related to this thread?Captain Haddock likes thisJust because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
- 4 March 2018 20:05340471The have no relevance at all, your Reverence. Just another opportunity to display puerile humour to make some bigoted point. You know - wet Africans, jungle bunnies and all that malarkey.Captain Haddock likes this
- 4 March 2018 20:45340473Talking of puerile, please address me as Your Grace, dear boy.
Guest 1997 and howard mcsweeney1 like thisJust because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES. - 4 March 2018 21:36340476I do apologise, Your Grace. I was perhaps thinking about Edward Sinclair's wonderful portrayal of the verger in Dad's Army. Yes, your Reverence!
- 4 March 2018 21:40340477Stuart Honey wrote:I do apologise, Your Grace. I was perhaps thinking about Edward Sinclair's wonderful portrayal of the verger in Dad's Army. Yes, your Reverence!
Don't panic but you are doomed, stupid boy!Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES. - 4 March 2018 22:45340479Looks like we have a surprise result on our hands with Signor Grillo leading the way.
https://news.sky.com/story/italy-election-exit-polls-point-to-hung-parliament-11276785 - Captain Haddock
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5 March 2018 00:23340480#3 & #4 were off topic but #2 is very pertinent I would suggest.
Earlier this month I was at a meeting addressed by Dr. Michael Spindelegger, Director General of International Center for Migration Policy Development and Former Vice-Chancellor of Austria.
Whilst I'm still awaiting the full transcript, he suggested that mass migration to and through Europe is one the key issues facing the continent. It has created new demographic and political realities.
In his own country Austria, the anti-immigration Freedom Party (FPO) entered a governing coalition in late 2017, making it the only western European country with a far-right party in government.
He referenced the Brexit vote, the showing of Le Pen last year, the unwillingness of countries in the East to have anything to do with refugee sharing and the forthcoming Italian elections.
He suggested that the objections from voters all over Europe to immigration policies imposed upon them by their Governments without any consultation, could lead to the fragmentation of the entire European experiment.
He suggested that the only solution was an effective economic response from the EU, emphasising the importance of investment in the countries that migrants leave, the need for intelligent policies that allow migrants to return to their countries, and the significance of developing skills in emerging labour markets.
He also suggested that a) it is unrealistic to expect to deport thousands never mind about the tens and indeed hundreds of thousands who have entered Europe illegally and that b) even when economies improve there is a ten year time lag before people stop using their improved wealth for other than trying to emigrate.
He also spoke of being in Sudan a few weeks previously where tens of thousands are crossing from Somalia, Ethiopia and Eritrea towards the Mediterranean coast, of what is happening behind the scenes in Libya and the push factors from Africa (Growing populations and lack of employment - the median age in Mali is 15.9!)
I honestly believe that if the Irish Government carry on with their Ireland 2040 plan relating to immigration (the rest of the plan is the usual Mom and apple pie guff about education, energy and improved public services) our ginger haired friends will give them a good slapping at the next election.
On the other hand, if half of Africa were to join them (obviously needed due to an ageing population etc etc) at least both parties could carry on blaming all their ills on hundreds of years of colonial exploitation by the Brits?"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - 6 March 2018 16:20340579Shows what a red halibut that was on the parking thread, my two replies are the only ones on topic.
https://www.westmonster.com/majority-of-italian-youngsters-backed-eurosceptic-anti-establishment-parties/ - Captain Haddock
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6 March 2018 16:47340581Two in a row Howard on topic?
https://www.westmonster.com/number-of-migrants-in-italy-quadrupled-since-2002-illegal-migration-surged/"The world is still a weird place, despite my efforts to make clear and perfect sense of it".
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - 22 March 2018 20:42341463Starting to really look like Europe is at last waking up Poland Hungary Austria and now Italy leading the way in opposition to the swamping of their countries and culture . Yawwwwn let's wait for granny slaters usual red library tedious rant
John Buckley likes this - 22 March 2018 21:04341464Call me over intuitive but I strongly suspect that Al is not a Jezza supporter.Guest 1713 likes this
- 22 March 2018 22:04341467For the record, I really enjoy WGS's "usual red library tedious rant"
Weird Granny Slater likes thisJust because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES. - 22 March 2018 22:20341468Not sure how I can phrase this Your Grace but she has been deleted for being overdue.
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23 March 2018 08:19341469Al1967 wrote:Starting to really look like Europe is at last waking up Poland Hungary Austria and now Italy leading the way in opposition to the swamping of their countries and culture . Yawwwwn let's wait for granny slaters usual red library tedious rant
With regard to Italy, I refer you to the case of little bouncing Benito.
And you really should take something for that oscitation. Or perhaps you already are.
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23 March 2018 19:07341514you meen to tell me that granny [ukip] slater has been dismissed as a naughty boy. - Weird Granny Slater
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23 March 2018 19:58341523You kip if you want to, BD, but Granny only wears leather on special occasions.
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