Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
wgs, you are a kinky bugger at times.
Weird Granny Slater likes this
Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,064
So the President rejects the Five Star/League eurosceptic choice for the finance post, the wannabe coalition PM gives up, the President seeks chummy ex-IMF functionary as stop-gap PM, and the stage is set for another election and the return of ex-con and all-round nice guy Sylvia. And the neoliberal juggernaut of austerity and 'trickle-down' wealth continues to crash everything before it. One reason I love Italy is that its people are largely ungovernable. But boy have they been shafted. Here you can see who really pulls the strings in European 'democracies', and it ain't the people.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44275781Pablo likes this
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
- Posts: 1,071
Weird Granny Slater wrote:Here you can see who really pulls the strings in European 'democracies', and it ain't the people.
Bilderberg strikes again.
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,070
Weird Granny Slater wrote:Here you can see who really pulls the strings in European 'democracies', and it ain't the people.
Which is why the majority of us voted for Brexit!
Bob Whysman and John Buckley like this
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,064
Well, maybe. But what the majority thought it was voting for and what they'll get, as with Italy, will be very different. Your government's busy seeing to that. One thing's for sure though: we will not get meaningful democratic self-determination, but the same controlling political and financial elites will emerge from the merde smelling of roses.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
One of the big campaign promises was to get shot of the estimated 500, 000 illegal immigrants but whether they can afford to do it is open to question - will be a bureaucratic nightmare.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/01/italy-vows-to-send-home-undocumented-immigrantshoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Courtesy of the Guardian.
Like the United Kingdom’s Brexiteers, Italians might convince themselves that they have what it takes to succeed on their own in the global economy. After all, Italy has a large industrial sector that is capable of exporting worldwide and exporters would benefit from a weaker currency. Italians might be tempted to think: why not escape the euro before those industries fold or end up in foreign hands, as is already happening?
If Italians do eventually go down this path, the immediate costs will be borne by domestic savers, whose nest eggs will be redenominated in depreciated liras. And the costs would be still greater if an Italian exit precipitated another financial crisis with bank holidays and capital controls. Faced with these possibilities, Italians – like the Greeks in 2015 – might blink and stay. But they also might decide to close their eyes and take the plunge.
Though Italy would be better off staying in the eurozone and reforming accordingly, we fear that an exit could become more likely over time. Italy is like a train whose engine has derailed; it might be only a matter of time before the cars behind it start coming off the track.
• Nouriel Roubini is professor at NYU’s Stern School of Business.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,257
At last!
Bob Whysman likes this
Arte et Marte
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
If this 3 country agreement takes off you can bet that a few member states to the East will want to join which will put intense pressure on the EU.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/austria-sebastian-kurz-anti-migration-germany-italy-refugee-crisis-eu-a8398756.htmlhoward mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
The Italian Government are sticking by their policy but how long can the Spanish carry on letting migrant ships dock without public concern?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/24/migration-is-threat-to-eu-free-travel-area-says-italian-prime-ministerJan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,875
There are only so many people that any country can absorb in virtually one go without encountering problems.
Surely this rescue policy only encourages the criminals who provide these little boats.
From Howard's link...."Meanwhile, a Danish ship, the Alexander Maersk, was waiting off Sicily’s coast for a port to disembark more than 100 people it had rescued." ....The previous charity ship Aquarius was operated by the Swiss charity Médecins Sans Frontières so maybe the country that provides these charity ships or the ship's owners should be made to take these migrants.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
the easy answer is to pick them up and drop them back to Libya.
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,875
Brian Dixon wrote:the easy answer is to pick them up and drop them back to Libya.
That is the common sense answer but I doubt that will ever happen far to many do-gooders around.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,257
Jan Higgins likes this
Arte et Marte