howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Keith Bibby wrote:looks like the I R A will be taking their seats in the UK parliament.
time for an English parliament
We have to look to the future and hope that Sinn Fein and DUP will continue to work for peace, both sides have been democratically elected. Will be a change for SibbFein members to actually turn up rather than just claim their money.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,782
D Little wrote:You see this is what concerns me. You have been in local politics for decades, leader of the council for years, and you talk of "adaptability" and "doing the deal".
Where are your principles? Where is your vision? What are your beliefs?
Surely politics is like making a marriage a long and happy one such as I had, you have to have a bit of give and take because intransigence gets you absolutely nowhere.
You can have "principles" and a "vision" and "beliefs" hence an argument or heated discussion starts but in the end you settle for the middle ground you can both agree on.
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Guest 1266- Registered: 8 May 2014
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Paul Watkins wrote:
You soon learn that as District Council Leader you are "small beer" with miniscule budgets & nobody is going to take notice of you shouting from Dover/Deal & how you are the special case. Everyone plays that game.
What a sad man. No wonder Dover is a basket case.
Jack of Hearts
Bob Whysman
- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Jan Higgins wrote:Surely politics is like making a marriage a long and happy one such as I had, you have to have a bit of give and take because intransigence gets you absolutely nowhere.
You can have "principles" and a "vision" and "beliefs" hence an argument or heated discussion starts but in the end you settle for the middle ground you can both agree on.
How perceptive of you Jan!
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2. Settling for the middle ground turned out to be
accepting an allotment full of flint!
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Keith Bibby wrote:looks like the I R A will be taking their seats in the UK parliament.
time for an English parliament
If they do take their seats in the UK parliament Keith this will sod up the numbers game.
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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and the 3 speakers don't have votes I think ??
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,782
Bob Whysman wrote:How perceptive of you Jan!
Us oldies have our moments Bob.
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Bob Whysman- Registered: 23 Aug 2013
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Jan Higgins wrote:Us oldies have our moments Bob.
Oldie Jan?....no
you are still playing catchup!
Where DO you get the energy from Jan!
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Funnily enough Boris Johnson is still favourite to be the next leader despite many of his fellow MPs being doubtful of his motives.
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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howard mcsweeney1 wrote:Funnily enough Boris Johnson is still favourite to be the next leader despite many of his fellow MPs being doubtful of his motives.
...and despite of his family being doubtfl of his motives! Didn't Rachel Johnson, his sister, try to be selected as a Liberal Democrat candidate recently?
Just because you don't take an interest in politics doesn't mean that politics won't take an interest in you. PERICLES.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,823
Theres a few outsiders still to throw there hat in the ring
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I can only think of David Davis, some will go for Amber Rudd but with a small 400 majority in her constituency she may not survive as an MP next time. The bookies won't even put a price on our Charlie incidentally.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Whoever aspires to clutch the poisoned chalice needs a thick skin.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Boris, innit. Got to be. Of course, the one person who doesn't want that, yet, is Boris. His tactic is clear - he has never really believed in Brexit, didn't expect it to happen and has been at pains to distance himself ever since. Dropping out of the leadership race first time, immediately backing May after the election - his nightmare is having caused this mess, he is left to clean it up......
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Courtesy of the Telegraph.
Theresa May will face a “stalking horse” challenge to topple her as Prime Minister if she waters down Brexit, senior Tories have warned.Leading Eurosceptic MPs have told The Telegraph they are prepared to mount an immediate leadership challenge if Mrs May deviates from her original plan.
The revelation comes after a torrid week for the Prime Minister in which she faced fierce criticism for her handling of the Grenfell Tower catastrophe. Conservative MPs – including Cabinet ministers – have concluded that Mrs May cannot lead them into the next election and they are now discussing when she could go.
Eurosceptic MPs have warned that any attempt to keep Britain in the customs union and single market or any leeway for the European Court of Justice to retain an oversight function will trigger an “overnight” coup. The plot has been likened to Sir Anthony Meyer’s 1989 challenge against Margaret Thatcher. One influential former minister said: “If we had a strong signal that she were backsliding I think she would be in major difficulty.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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It's the crazy woman now thinking of going alone.
The clock is ticking for her
lots waiting in the wings to mount that challenge
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,980
Neil Moors wrote:Boris, innit.
These fellas seem to have the measure of him (NOTE for the sensitive: there is some swearing in the video, and others will see from the still that it's not for them...):
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Boris looks to be the peoples person as hes maverick
but depending on how brexit talks go D Davis could be in the running
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Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Boris looks to be the peoples person as hes maverick
but depending on how brexit talks go D Davis could be in the running
In other news today is Tuesday tomorrow is Wednesday
Guest 2060- Registered: 19 Apr 2017
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According to some in the media. Boris supporters are briefing against David Davis, the main charge is Davis is too old.Davis is 68 years old.
Davis according to Wikipedia was born and brought up in a council estate in Tooting.His grandfather was a Communist. Davis is a graduate of the Harvard business school and worked for Tate Lye sugar company for 17 years,starting at the bottom and worked his way up in the company. Davis was a Europe Minister under Major.
Interesting history but if he cocks up Brexit. He will be history.
