Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,239
I don't see how it would be different to any other of the thousands? of tunnels that cover the same kind of distance Blackwall and Dartford would both be of similar length and both far deeper.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
reg unless you worked under ground you would know the dangerous conditions,it would need an escape tunnel for safty reasons.
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,239
I don't disagree, but I don't see why a relatively short and very shallow tunnel would cause any undue challenges, they would use cut and cover tunnelling with escape stairwells incorporating fire safety zones every 100m or so.
I think for Dovers long term future it must seriously be considered, the only other options are a flyover out over the harbour or destruction of miles of beautiful kent countryside with a bypass.
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,040
Reginald Barrington appears to be talking about an A20 tunnel, Jan Higgins about a cross-country one and Charlie Elphicke about an unspecified one. If it served only the port and had a holding area at its inland end I can see it might have some merit - but as simply a place to queue in it sounds like a high price to pay.
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Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,239
Primarily Snargate st to the docks, to give Dover back it's access to the seafront, i think Jan was refering to the original proposal to build a bypass around the back of Dover instead they dualled Townwall st and cut us off from the seafront.
This was a suggested proposal a couple of years ago.
http://www.dover-express.co.uk/fed-commuter-draws-townwall-tunnel-plan-reconnect/story-26088676-detail/story.htmlJan Higgins likes this
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,000
The idea of a tunnel is one of the most stupid I have heard of for a while!
Both our MP and the local Lib Dem parliamentary spokesman are calling for a road tunnel for the A20 through Dover to 'keep traffic moving' and to relieve Dover of 'air pollution'.
Ignoring any cost benefit analysis of the project and civil engineering difficulties in construction (have any of them looked at a geological map of the area? Doh!) Just for starters I would be fascinated to know how putting a small section of what is often a 14 mile queue of traffic in a tunnel will speed up traffic flow.
I also ask how emergency services might access any incidents in the tunnel such as a fire or even people suffering from 'mental problems' trying to slaughter all around them which seems so fashionable in Europe just now (N.B. Nothing to do with Religion) and, presuming we don't wish the drivers to asphyxiate themselves on exhaust fumes exactly where the noxious fumes are going to be pumped out into the atmosphere.
To add to this the idiots keep on citing the Conwy tunnel as a template! A tube, laid in sections across an estuary where it would have ben difficult to put in coffer dams, which has damn all to the with the proposed Dover site. At least Reg's cut-and-cover is doable even if mad!
I am always amazed just how many experts Dover has, ranging from engineers with their knowledge of soil mechanics ready to pitch in on the railway collapse, hydrologists giving their expert opinion on any dredging of the Goodwin Sands and even a former Mayor of Sandwich who was willing to offer his scientific knowledge of electromagnetic radiation from proposed towers at Richborough causing unspecified 'mental problems'.
I'm still working on the Samuel Shenton statue ........
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