howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
just seems to be a total lack of interest from some parents, just breed and feed them.
in the interest of balance all the drunken 14 year olds were indigenous not from overseas.
what happened when they got home?
what did the parents say when they came home smelling of booze and most probably staggering around?
my guess is that they said nothing, much easier to pretend there is not a problem.
Oh i see , sadly parenting skills are a thing of the past in todays world.
It is tough being a parent of teens today, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try!! God knows I've had enough trials with my 4, but we don't stop trying and never gave up, and give or take a few slips they do ok. One ot two "could do better", but overall not too bad - there are so many competing pressures and influences now that were not there a few years ago. It makes it harder to provide sanctions or incentives.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,833
If chidren are raised properly from babies with luck they are little trouble when teenagers, only doing the small daft things that all teenagers do.
My daughter raised both her boys on her own and they have turned out to be fine young men that I can be proud of. She only did part-time work when the boys were at school and was always there for them when they came home.
I believe part of the problem now-a-days is that both parents have to work full time, so they have no idea what their teenage children are doing after school.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
howard,maybe a ski mask and a baseball bat might work.
Brian Aycliffe has had plenty problems last couple years with some sorts didnt see you then with the above items .
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
mel,didnt need to some one else beat me to it.i see you mums faverit niebours have moved then.
lol yeah she devistated
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
- Posts: 3,391
HOWARD
I think there are some clouded Issues within the postings;
Let me go through a few of the postings to comment;
1; P.C.S.O. in general they are ttrained BETTER than your avarage P.C. so sid;s
point not correct, further, this Govt and the last one has made it clear P.C.S.O.'S
ARE HERE to stay,
Sid, could I suggest you do a little more research on not only the role of the
P.C.SO but also the n/hood unit, as these contain, both PC's and P.C.S.O.'s
the community appreciates the P.C.SO which howard quotes togethr with
Roger, I do feel SID you have not done yourself justice, and lack the
knowledge not only why PCSO's are in place, but also the role of the
Police neighbourhood unit.
2; howard YOU SPEAK of other nationalities, and like any family this should be
knocked on the head, no matter what culture(even white English!)
Of course others have commented on children but relate not to HOWARDS
original children, but English WHITE children
Of course we have the problem, if we take SIDS point and lock everyone up
the prison's are full, so is impossible.
3; With regard to the peoples republic of Aycliffe, there is also the active
Town and pier activities club operating in the ward., with gordon cowan.
4; HOWARD
There is no excuse for the behaviour of these children or any children and
I hope you get results
Keith, a response thanks. Let me elucidate as you missed my point completely.
1. I advocate giving PCSO's the power of arrest and accept they are here to stay. However, if it had been my choice, I would have invested in the police and not created a new 'toothless' (don't mean to be offensive, just can't think of another word) police force.
2. At no point have I suggested locking everyone up.
So, to be clear, I don't support the creation of PCSO's and the diversion of funds away from a fully trained professional police force, but, accept if we have PCSO's that they should be fully tooled to do the job. There is no escaping the fact that every pound spent on PCSO's is a pound less for the police force.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
- Posts: 10,540
With PCSOs being cheaper than police officers, it does make sense to have PCSOs, but they could have more powers but are stopped from having them, which in my humble opinion, is wrong.
All the PCSOs in my Ward (and probably all the other wards too) are very good, very dedicated to the job in hand and very, very worthwhile.
Roger
Just clear this up for me, lads - I am a humble femail. If the PCSOs had more powers and more investment, couldn't we just have more bobbies?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
the difference is that pcsos are visible, the official ones are are not with some exceptions.
That is just a question of setting priorities Howard. A swift kick in the right place of the top brass could change that.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
i doubt things will change the last chief constable promised all sorts about getting the police away from their desks, nothing improved over 6 years.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
- Posts: 3,391
SID;
iF you give PCSO's those powers then they would be just doing the police job on the cheap.
As i have stated many times sid, you need to do more homework on the value of PCSO who's aim is NOT TO replace police but to enhance it.
Think you are misinfomed on the PCSO role
I mildly disagree - there is a debate to be had about investment in appropriate areas. PCSOs are great in their capacity, there is no doubt - rthe debate is around whether the investment could be more useful.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
- Posts: 3,391
BERN
Thankyou for your mildness lol
A great deal more research needs to be done in research before putting down what is happening at local level
A lot more to say on the value/how police opwerate//and PCSO achievment
(s)
but lets see how debate goes
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
- Posts: 1,266
So sorry to hear of Alan's heart attack - one of Dover's good guys.
I put all this anti social behaviour to a lack of improper parenting and toothless policing. Until we take away the pc culture they grow up in, I doubt this will ever stop. I'm sorry to hear of your woes, Howard; try playing Wagner at full volume at them. That should sort them out; culture generally drives the morons away.
True friends stab you in the front.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
- Posts: 3,391
I think like others have said, this type of anti social behaviour should not be tolerated whoever are the ones that cause it.
hope it improves, i understand it was quiet last night