Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Boris Johnson has cut 120 posts at City Hall today as part of restructuring plans.
The London Evening Standard reports that "The Mayor wants to save about £7.5million from an £80million budget by the cuts, many of them middle managers earning about £40,000." That's 9.4%. The Standard continues: "The main cuts are expected to be among administration staff. Short-term contracts will not be renewed."
I spotted that on conhome this morning.
If Boris can achieve savings like this without touching front line staffing and services then imagine what more could be cut from Central Government spending. Central Government, just like the Livingstone City Hall, has been on a spending spree for long enough, they have become increasingly inefficient and wasteful lacking in any real budgetry control and restraint.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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So long as front-line services are not adversely affected that's great.
Too many non-jobs anyway. There are many qangos that could be merged and save millions of pounds, but all this cutting of jobs will do, is cut down the amount the Government gets in taxes and then increase the amount it pays out in benefits.
We need more wealth-creating jobs.
Roger
Brian Dixon
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roger,who for mps or the working class?.
Sid Pollitt
Roger, what services and jobs are you going to cut at DDC? I said before that a so-called freeze on council tax [that a potential Tory government would instigate if elected] would be a cut of around three to five million pounds in the budget of an authority the size of DDC, over two years, has the council got that much slack? This my rough calculation I know, but it'd still be a big cut, have you been wasteful at DDC? Roger, how many non-jobs have you got at DDC?
What Boris is doing will be replicated across the country and what some will call waste is in reality services and people's jobs. Should we, at a time of a downturn, really be rubbing our hands in glee at an annoucement of job losses?
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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Sid if you see the Careline thread in the other section you can see some further discussion on loss of services. Boris may be making cuts as mentioned above but I go along with Sid it is very often services that they are cutting to make the savings. I cannot imagine there are loads of guys and gals sitting in some whitehall office chucking elastic bands at each other all day and playing with their pencils....just waiting for Boris to come along with an axe. This image may have been buyable once upon a time but not anymore. Cuts usually mean a cut in some service or other.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Some services PaulB are valuable, like teachers and nurses. Others are superflous like most spin doctors and all so called diversity co-ordinators.
The point is it is very easy indeed, when the money is available and no restraint being imposed, for Civil Servants and Local Government officers to expand their empires. It gives them more kudos, bigger departments and budgets, more power and higher salaries.
We are sufferring a huge fiscal problem and public spending must, absolutely must, be cut in real terms. Not to do so will create much greater problems in the long term and will cost jobs. These new lost jobs will be in the private wealth creating sector as these are what pays these puffed up salaries.
Far far better to lose jobs and costs in the non-productive and less useful parts of the public sector than lose them in what might be profitable companies in normal times. The bigger the burden you place on the private sector the more diffficult it becomes to get out of recession.
But we all know, without cynicism or false bravado, that the services to be cut will be the front line services and not the spin doctors - by their very nature thay will create a good raison d'etre!!!!! When the going gets tough, the tough bed down and make sure they are the last to leave the building!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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barryw,what nurses,what teachers what anything,these front line people are dissapearing fast due to cut backs over the last 24 years.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Falling school rolls and tight budgets are going to result in job losses in schools, that is inevitable. But these, nurses, doctors, and other front line staff should not need to be the first target for cost savings. Anybody that does that is simply being lazy and keeping jobs for the boys. There is lots of fat and as this thread shows, Boris has shown the way.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Bojo continues with his promised cuts in staff but one woman, who had been in the first meeting, said the environment team, London stakeholders team, which co-ordinated the response to the July bombings, and the equalities team had been told none of their jobs was safe.
She said the environment department would be "very slimmed down and "the number of people monitoring climate change and air quality would be almost non-existent".
It seems fairly clear that following cuts last year in the Enviromental budget he feels he can save money but not the planet or Londons air quality by decimating this dept.So much for his green credentials.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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falling school pupil numbers should not be a reason for cutting back on teachers.
the increasing numbers of children entering our schools that do not speak english, need additional help.
this could be paid for by the large employers of immigrant workers.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Sid - I'm not cutting any jobs at Whitfield.
No one wants to see and no one has suggested, that any front-line services of any public body are cut.
Roger
Sid Pollitt
So Roger if your lot get in at the general election are you going to oppose a freeze in council tax? That's the policy and it will effectively knock £3m to £5m from the district council's budget over two years. BarryW is rubbing his hands and posting things like 'Boris has shown the way' so can we expect cuts before the so-called freeze? Cant you see that this is an indiscriminate and dogmatic approach that will effect jobs and services? You say you're not cutting jobs then maybe you could give us a flavour of the slack or waste that exists at the DDC Fort.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Do you really believe, Sid, that cuts can be avoided whatever Government gets elected?
Has it not sunk in yet just what a desperate state the national finances are in?
There will be cuts to public spending, there has to be cuts and they will happen whatever Government gets elected, they are unavoidable.
Sid Pollitt
So the talk of non-jobs etc is a red herring?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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hardly Sid. We need a cull of the thousand of jobs driven by this Governments politically correct priorities, these are the non-jobs in question.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I don't have any say in whether the Conservatives will cut jobs when they get in next year, or whenever it is.
Roger
Sid Pollitt
But if there are no no-jobs at DDC you would still rub your hands with glee at the news of job cuts/ or vote for job cuts. Are there non-jobs at Canterbury, Thanet, Shepway or Ashford councils? They're all roughly the same size as DDC and a cut of say £2.5m for two years in a row would bring about a lot of 'savings', but just think of the job and services cuts that would mean if the Tories got their way, all with the red herring of non-jobs no doubt.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I have no doubt that there have been people employed to fulfill the Governments pc agenda, so you get rid of the agenda and then get shot of those non-jobs. I am sure those concerned will be grateful being released to find more productive work in the private sector with a complete change of career.
Ross Miller
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I am fairly sure they will not be grateful being put out of work at a time of rising unemployment and reducing vacancies
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