howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
interesting to see old labour stalwarts like ken and keith scratching each others eyes out.
this is what kept the party in the wilderness for so long, then neill kinnock came along got rid of all the mouthy deadwood and built a party that was electable.
along came tony blair, bought everyone new suits and paid for good hairdos(identical) for the ladies.
the blues then took over the old labour mantle, running around with knives hidden up their sleeves, all trying to work out who would be the next leader, so that they would be in a good position regarding promotion.
we are now back with the the blues looking very smart and capable, a new 27 year old lady mp, the works.
labour mp's facing defeat now are jockying for position in the shadow cabinet, knowing that gordon will be given his p45, probably next may.
policies for bringing the country out of recession?
not seen any good ones from the main two players.
they seem much more interested in how their careers will be affected.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
howard,its called self intrest,allso could be said they are vien.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
- Posts: 3,391
Wow I go away for a few days and all these postings got to reply
berne
When they nip away all the parties you end up in isolation like ken is close to
KEN
Funny how in weeks either you have lied to me over years or you forget wot u say to me from one week to the next!
Wasn't that long ago you was telling me how much you respected me, on this forum you give a very diffrent impression wonder why that is?
So you read the Daily Mail, good for you, a wonderful choice?
on IDS I don't think it mattered who was leader of tories at that time the knives were out, although I have to say IDS comes across far better now than he ever did as leader.
On Labour, yep it became electable by moving from its roots and there are aspects as you know I disagree with, but it had to change or be in opposition forever
something the tories are learning at the moment and changing.
Being honest Ken the Labour party was unlikely to allow you to rejoin them after your outburst when you left, and your standing against a labour candidate
So its easy to gripe on here, but the story needs to have both sides
As I'v said many times before I RESPECT your right to post even if I disagree with many of your comments.
But things like the Age concern initiative you should be commended for.
GENERAL
Yep all the parties, yes ALL the parties will say what they feel the electorate want to hear, doesnt matter whether its costed or not.
Labour went for the middle England vote, which tories are after now
BRIAN
I have NEVER been in politics for myself, in fact I would go as far as to say many politicians work hard for the communities they serve and the council.
Thats why i contiunue to do my volunteer work after finishing as a cllr because i believe in volunteering and not just moaning about things.
I do enjoy the volunteer part of my life now, a lot less politics(apart from here)
I take a back seat in the political world these days, and I feel so much better for it.
KEN
bacon rolls off then?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
why does it have to get personal.?
keith and ken, you come across like two baldmen fighting over a comb.
where does dover and the country at large enter into your thinking?
Guest 687- Registered: 2 Jun 2009
- Posts: 513
Howard, nothing will stop Keith and I enjoying bacon rolls together.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
- Posts: 3,391
HOWARD
Or having view points on here.
Theres nowt wrong with having diffrent points of view, even when in the same party.
I have had many a disagreement with our Ken, and tried to get explanations on why sometimes he floats off into his world, one day im sure i will find out.
I can hear a bacon roll calling,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
with respect, keith and ken, you are both missing the point.
the country is going deeper into trouble and two long term (if former) councillors, just get involved in personalised tit for tat stuff.