DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
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12 October 2009
22:1330310Good Barry, that's dialectic.
Keith, the more I earn, the more I am happy to pay into well spent tax, I'd only waste any excess I earn on things I don't actually need.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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12 October 2009
22:1630311DT1 - I am quite sure that you know better than any Government how to spend your money to the benefit of your family. Either that or I can tell you how best to invest it to benefit them and you in future
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
- Posts: 1,116
12 October 2009
22:4030317I don't want a government to spend my money to benefit my family...they are fine! however there are families that are not, so they can have my excess.
DT1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 15 Apr 2008
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12 October 2009
22:4130318I don't need a big TV and my kids can rely on their merits rather than inheritance.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 October 2009
09:3030341I was going to say the same thing Barry - it was only during the previous Labour Administration that DDC were officer led.
Only the other day, a senior officer said to me that if I wanted a change of emphasis or priority on someything I am trying to pursue, I would need to get the Portfolio Holder to push it.
There is no way that Paul would allow DDC to be officer-led under his leadership.
Roger
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 October 2009
10:1430344Hair shirted DT
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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13 October 2009
10:3330345BARRYW/ROGER
You know that not to be correct, officers will and do fill vacuums.
Labour groups like torires (and the short lib dem time in control in Dover)
all were unwilling to break that cycle.
To think otherwise shows you did not hsave your finger on the pulse.
Like you Barryw I challenged officers, including the council solicitors, but that doesn't get away from the fact offcers have always run councils, and always will.
That is the few things able to be controlled locally
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,022
13 October 2009
10:5830352I only speak from my experience as a former cabinet member .It took a lot to get officers round to change what they determined as policy .Serveral rather heated discussions at times .Roger it does depend on the portfolio holder and no one councillor should have that power .I know from trying to get toilets at Russell Gardens .When that portfolio hloder gets a weak bladder then perhaps I migh get the toilet reinstated .
I hope my spelling is better today .The fingers are better .
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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13 October 2009
11:1530356They do fill vacuums, Keith - members have to make sure there is no vacuum to fill and officers respond to the members policy priorities, thats what we did in my time and I am sure PW and his team is now. The period of Labour control was another matter from what I hear.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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14 October 2009
11:4930446Roger et al
Further to my posting #11 here are a couple of photos of empty shops and how Jersey attempts to make them more attractive..
These old photos of St Helier are displayed in an unsed shop window not only do they brighten the shop up but it allows tourists time to see how the town used to look.
The HSBC bank are in the process of taking over another empty shop but by placing a poster in the window 'coming soon' it keeps shoppers hopes high that all is still well. A feel good factor.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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14 October 2009
14:0830451Hi Marek,
Great stuff - that's exactly what I proposed for Dover's empty shops on this very forum a while back (God, I'm sounding like an egotistical councillor here, aren't I? Feel free to shoot me!).
I seem to remember yourself, Bern, Roger and I were in accord on this; ie: filling the windows of the legion empty shops and premises with huge blown-up photos of lovely Old Dover - the Crypt, the Granada, the Odeon, Hattons, the Dover Stage, the Market Hall, county cricket at Crabble, Dover football, past pageants and events...the list is endless.
Great idea. Someone tell, ahem, Dover Pride. When it comes to art, the past isn't necessarily another country.
Floreat Dubris!
Andy
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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14 October 2009
16:0830460I agree Andrew - and I don't like the fly-posters (modern art) on the old Stagecoach hoardings.
Roger
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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14 October 2009
17:4030464Would be great to be able to blow up some postcards to poster size - when people see them at that scale there is so much to see
Just need some £££ and a nice printer to do it !
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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14 October 2009
17:4730465Actually it would be interesting to be able to see what Dover Pride are planning for the old Indoor Market display and if something like this could be done.... ?
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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14 October 2009
17:5330466Even doing something like this would be fun
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 644- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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14 October 2009
19:2830473Even Deal is getting in on the act of decorating empty properties in the town centre. This is a work in progress at the empty pub opposite Boots - it was unfinished when I snapped it last week.
(I think the artist must have mis-scaled the pedestrian walking the dog, he cut his head off!)
On another note, I've heard that fines for litter dropping are not enforced by DDC in Dover itself. Does anyone know the rationale behind this, if it is accurate?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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14 October 2009
19:3230474you know the answer that will be given as well as i do phil.
lack of resources!!
yet some of the poorest areas of the country are rigidly enforcing the discarding of litter and leaving dog toffee around.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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14 October 2009
19:4630476Great pictures Paul, especially the bottom one which is still in the memory. The 97 Elms Vale or Maxton bus standing there, waiting to take me home to the bottom of Belgrave.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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14 October 2009
19:4930477Sorry Marek, just scrolled up and spotted yours. Great stuff mate.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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14 October 2009
21:2030482barryw
have a day orf mate
tory/labour/lib dem all officer led
if you believe otherwise your in cloud cuckoo land
Been nice knowing you :)
