Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 December 2009
22:2734721As we all know Gen/Election in a few weeks time,but after that we have the local Elections and U.K.I.P. are going to be puting up Candidates in wards, so if you would like to have a go at trying to get on the council why not come and join up with us.
Keys Facts of this years council elections in parts of the U.K.
U,K,IP. had 594Candidates each taking an average of 16%of the vote.
Fact one.In the 488 seats where UKIP faced a Labour candidate,UKIP took 80,000 votesMORE than Labour.
Fact Two. UKIP took 350,000votes in total. UKIP went on to win a total of 8seats 7 of them were County Council,and 1 was a District Council by-election.
Not only did Labour lose control of Staffordshire County Council they also finished behind UKIP.
There is more to come later but for now you can see that U.KIP is about more than the E.U.
Just looking at one ,the expenses scandal created a genuine desire for the electorate to "PUNISH" the three main parties.
Our party now has real momentum and enormous opportunity to make a permanent impact on the future of British Politics.
And now you can come and join in with all this by geting on to the local councils next time round with us. Thank You.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 December 2009
22:4834723need to know a bit more vic about their take on local issues.
from the little i know, they seem to be the same as the blues, more local control etc.
good words but what about money to local authorities to carry out things that are necessary to each locality?
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 December 2009
23:1434730Howard Again you are right and the money needs to be found.
This just me saying this not my party, I think we need to look at all the local councils parish councils as well I think we could cut back on some of them have less councils but with more power,at this time the disrtict council is losing power to the K.C.C, is this a good thing at this time I do not know.ALL I can say is all times i go to their offices they are very helpfull if they were not there where we turn to.But parish councils some are on top of each other so they could be turned into one,and cut some of them out, but the parishs would not like it.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 December 2009
23:2034732interesting subject vic, i find parish councils more relevant than town councils.
the parishes tend to represent outlying areas that know what is important to them.
the usual things tend to be village halls, street lighting and bus shelters, the councillors are normally non party political.
very different from town councils.
i agree with you totally about our local government officers, they are usually very helpful and well informed.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 December 2009
23:2834734Howard again you are right but some parish councils are on top of each other so one could do the job of two saving a small amount of funding but sill a saving and taking that over the U.K. at small amount would be alot of funding in the end,at each parish Ellection the cost is over £3000 each.
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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11 December 2009
00:1734739You are beginning to sound like Barry Vic,sounds straight out of the UKIP manual,on facts and figs.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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11 December 2009
08:3134753HOWARD/VIC
Just a few pointers, you will find in many villages the Lib dems still stand candidates, with regard to councils i have said for some time in many diffrent posts 3 councils in my area is to many
as i will remind all im now represented(but not seen many of them over the 4years)
2 county councillors
3 District councillors
4 Town councillors
and thats just priory maxton and elms vale ward.
I truely believe in decisions being made as local as possible with real local people involvement.
I believe town councils have a real role to p-lay but we realy must look at the 3 councils and number of councils cos all these have officers many costing an arm and a leg which costs you and me a lot of dosh.
this should not be about political control or party stuff but about whats right for the local people
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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11 December 2009
12:4434764John Barry said on the forum last week that I should not be taken serious but that was just to let him and all of you just how serious I am taking the next Gen/Election and after the local ones.I have a meeting in two hours time at my home to work out how we go forward from now till the Gen Election.I look forward to seeing you all later on tonight.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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11 December 2009
12:4934765If you were serious about the General Election then you would not be suggesting you were available for the locals a year later. You therefore expect to lose and so cannot be serious.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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11 December 2009
13:3034766being serious does not just mean winning barry, it also means affecting the outcome.
this is very likely, the UKIP gave the blues the chance of holding a referendum to prove how serious they were about giving our independence away, they refused.
they will now reap what they have sown.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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11 December 2009
14:5334770UKIP will fizzle out, Howard for the general election vote. Anyone seriously anti EU wont want to risk a pro-EU Labour Government and so will be supporting the Eurosceptic Conservatives. Make no mistake the next Conservative Government will be the most Eurosceptic ever and electing it will be a positive step towards getting out of the EU. Already we are seeing the EU banning Foreign Ministers from heads of Government meetings as they are now subserviant to the EU Foreign Minister. Little things like this will gradually be turning sentiment more and more against the EU and that will ensure our eventual exit. At the end of the day, Howard, it is the mainstream politicians who will determine this, not the 'outers' like UKIP.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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11 December 2009
14:5634771Barry read my post again I did not say it would be me standing in the locals but the party anyway there is nothing stoping me even if I got in,you can stand in the locals even if you are a M.P. but I do not think I would just saying a M,P, can stand for a parish if he or she wish to.And Again Howard you are right in what you say,but I am going all out to win.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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12 December 2009
10:2734797I had a meeting again with some of my team on Friday and we are moving forward .
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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13 December 2009
20:5134849i THINK UKIP will be around for a while and could well as howard says affect the outcome here in this seat
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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13 December 2009
20:5534850they seem to have stacks of dosh keith, they contest everything going.
the blues have opened a pandoras box here, all they had to do was promise a referendum and none of this would ever have happened.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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13 December 2009
20:5834852yep and with vic being local will probably take votes off all 3 maJOR parties not enough or anywhere near enough to win, but enough to affect who does win
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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13 December 2009
23:5834859Thank you both for that,We are working very hard at this time and more meetings this week, we still need more help,and as for funding well we have unlike the big partys no money supporters behind us and we are always looking at ways to get more fundings.#
In Jan2010 only a few weeks away we will be holding the partys A,G.M. I will tell you at the end of the week the place and time,why not come along and have your say,also i will be talking about how the party will move forward,and about how we as a party can have a imput in our Townof Dover, it is not all about the E,U, we will as I said before be puting up for the local councils in 2011. But first it is the big one and I am looking forward to it ,you can take it from me I will stand my own ground with the others.
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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14 December 2009
09:5134865I realise this is Dover Forum but I have to add a comment re Vics posting above .If he wants to become an MP or indeed a District Councillor he will have to look at issuies which effect all the district .
Donot forget Aylesham very much Labour strong hold and Deal .I try to work for my patch River and Alkham but some of the decisions made at DDC effect everyone within the district .
Im sure the good folk of Capel ,Shepherdswell St Margarets would like to think their MP.recognised their issuies Its a big patch Vic
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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14 December 2009
09:5834867I have had aphone call telling me that Deal Hospltal is now on the hit list and even could close down,I must say this is the first time I have heard of it so I will try and find out more,but if it is true we must fight to stop it,Deal like Dover needs it hospltal,we all talk about Dover hospltal and it is right to do so because it is our Hospltal but that does not mean we can not help Deal,and as I am standing at the next Gen /ELECTION I will also be looking to see if I can help them in anyway.I also like Deal and go there one day aweek to have a look round and a meal.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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14 December 2009
13:1334879that does not surprise me vic, the victoria in deal just has a minor injuries department and similar stuff that goes with a cottage hospital.
a bus goes past every hour, the car park is usually under used too.
the days of that sort of hospital have been numbered for a long time now.
