Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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17 August 2010
07:0865805The news has broken this morning that UKIP Leader Lord Pearson is standing down after less than a year in the job. It is accepted by common concensus that although he was a nice guy he was fairly dreadful in the position. He had something of an atrocious general election and some of his performances on television were excruciating....not knowing for example what was in his manifesto half the time.
But he was/is an engaging fellow, but perhaps best suited to a support role rather than the frontage position.
But what now for UKIP? They are desperately short of an appropriate figure to fill the role. Nigel Farrage is the only real household-known possibility. He was a previous leader and is a well known figure on television.However he quit the leadership to fight the general election aiming to become their first MP. It didnt happen, despite being all over the news with his helicopter crash.. as I remember he was beaten into third place.
Chances are though he will return to the role of UKIP Leader at this juncture.
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17 August 2010
07:4465817
This is a picture of Lord Pearson with our Vic. Lord Pearson is on the right and seen here on his visit to Dover. It was supplied to us by UKIP and was previously used on our frontpage during the general election. Nice shot. Taken at the Sea Sports Centre by I believe young Phil Medgett.
17 August 2010
08:0665820The end is nigh!
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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17 August 2010
08:1965825Not so Sid I will have to wait to see what headoffice have to say,but not a real big lost to the party we have seen even bigger change with the main partys the reds at this time have no leader and the blues have two fighting to be the leader and I can see that again changing soon. So it is happing all the time but the main core is still there and always will.
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17 August 2010
08:5565829Leaders come and leaders go but all the partys are still there we have a lot of young men and ladys who could fit into the roll of leader it is no big deal as it has been said already he was in the job less then ayear and was not a very good talker very nice person but not that good of a leader.
I will be puting my name forward,(No joke)I will be doing that today.
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17 August 2010
09:2965834PaulB
Watch out this is the third UKIP thread, Vic will be emailing you to complain about it not being on his UKIP thread...lol
Doesn't surprise me that Pearson has stepped down. The big question is who will replace him?.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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17 August 2010
09:3365836You are right there Marek hit the nail on the head in one,please I have now open this up on the UKIP site so can we move over on to it ,the last thing we need is a third thread I can not keep up with it all
But avery good photo of me with Lord Pearson You might be looking at the new standin leader of UKIP.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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17 August 2010
09:4165839i would have thought that nigel farage is the best choice, became a household name through his performances on question time.
i don't know of any other leading ukip people(except for vic, of course).
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17 August 2010
09:4965842Howard you will have to look on the UKIP site to see what I have put about this.
17 August 2010
12:1465860Vic, Labour have that bird looking after the shop at the mo. She's keeping the show in the road until the millenium bug brothers take over later in the year. All the other party's have the leader in place.
I suspect Howard is right about the Farago chap. He is well known to Joe Public and would be a good choice, unless of course Nick Griffin can be persuaded to join.
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17 August 2010
12:2465869sid
looks like mr griffin will be the victim of an internal coup if what i have been reading is correct.
looks like one of the brothers wil take over for the reds, ed is favoured by the unions, david by the activists.
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17 August 2010
12:2565871All I say please read the the UKIP site.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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18 August 2010
07:3665987Initially Lord Pearson gave a boost to UKIP. Its not every party that has a Lord at the helm and initially the responses were good. For example...If you take a look at the following photograph you can see Vic and Lord Pearson being met on the steps of the town hall by a 'trade delegation' from the Chamber of Commerce. Yes indeed none other than Cameron Macsween and Alan Shirley turned out to show him around our one illustrious building.
Would they have turned out to greet an untitled leader... if he had been say an Arthur Rowbotham from Barnsley or similar. Well no - probably not. So initially the Lord gave UKIP a fillip.
On the other hand it would have been interesting to see how UKIP would have fared in the election under Farage's leadership but their most famous name bizarely quit the post before the election got going. Not a good tactical move on reflection. But then hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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The Labour leadership is still up in the air as we know. The only opposition coming from Labour these days seems to be in the shape of either Alastair Darling or Jack Frost. And in political terms they belong to an ageing ancient dynasty of long long ago, the Blair era dynasty. People are tired of these old overly familiar faces even though in various capacities they have served the country well.
Once the new more youthful Labour wave hits the political beach, we will see a pick up in fortunes and maybe even a revival to former glories.
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18 August 2010
17:1166027This is the statement from Lord Pearson himself.
I took over as leader or UKIP last year to see the party through the General Election,and said I would then consider my position.
We increased our vote by 50%,and have many exiting plans for the future. But I have learnt that I am not much good at partys politics,which I do not enjoy. I am also 68,and need to give more time to my wider interests. These include the treatment of people with intellectual impairment,teacher training,the threat from Islamism and the relationship beween good and evik-not to mention my dogs and my family.
So it is right that I should stand down on September 2nd,early in the Parliament,to give a younger leader time to be established before the next election,which may come sooner than we thaink. There is no shortage of talent in UKIP, and the new leader will have my full support. I will continue to do what I can to raise funds for the party.
UKIP has never been more important for our freedom as a self-governing democracy.We have a coalition government which supports every new power grab by Brussels:supervision of our financial services; an EU diplomatic corps;new police and surveillance powers;bailing out the folly that is the euro.Much of this is illegal under the Treaties,but that has never worried Brussels or the Luxembourg Court, which now make most of our national law in a secretive process over which Parliament has no control.
History teaches us that trouble lies ahead when a regime is free to break its own laws with impunity,when it is supported by a puppet court,and when its people are powerless to get rid of it.That is what the European Union has become, and the only wayout is the door.
Now the British people are to be allowed a referendum on how they elect their MPs,but they are denied the referendum they were promised on whether those MPs should govern the country; on whether we should remain ensnared in the tentacles of the corrupt EU octopus, or be set free to enjoy the fruits of democracy and free trade.
UKIP must go on telling the truth about "EUROPE":HOW WE CANNOT CONTROL IMMIGRATION IF WE STAY IN THE EU; the madness or trowing £6.7 billion a year in net cash down the Brussels drain when we face savage cuts at home;the terrible suffering in developing countries caused by the common Agricultural and Fisheries policies; that only some 10%of our economy,that leaving the EU,yet its dictats strangle100%of our economy;that leaving the EU would create jobs,not lose them.
UKIP deserves a better politician than me to lead and show the country how liberating and enriching life would be outside the EU. I am confident that one will emerge.
Malcolm Pearson August 17th 2010
18 August 2010
18:1166034"History teaches us that trouble lies ahead when a regime is free to break its own laws with impunity,when it is supported by a puppet court,and when its people are powerless to get rid of it.That is what the European Union has become, and the only wayout is the door."
History also teaches us that when Britain turns its back on Europe, war is the end result.
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18 August 2010
18:1766039Wrong Sid ,we have never turn our back on Europe,in the last two world wars we went over to help them.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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18 August 2010
19:0066050love that comment about lord pearson "not being very good at party politics", how many others would admit that?
if he was referring to the slanging matches in the commons and in the media then i applaud him.
18 August 2010
19:3766063Vic, I'm afraid your post 1700 history has let you down. On each occasion Britain has removed itself from the centre of European politics the outcome has been war.
For anyone who is interested, there is an excellent book on the subject: "Choose Your Weapons" by Douglas Hurd.
So, before anyone else tries to challenge the statement in #15 I suggest you check your facts by reading this historical treatise first. It's a seriously good read too.
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18 August 2010
19:3766065He is avery nice person and honest with it.
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18 August 2010
19:3766066He is avery nice person and honest with it.
