Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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Noise, disturbance and additional traffic, I nerly choked on my cornflakes reading that. OMG the building was a pub for years so no noise there then and certainly nothing by way of taxis pulling up outside for customers in an inebriated state.
Why did the owners need planning permission the Renaissance did food for years and built up quite a good trade in lunches and all day breakfasts?
Jobsworth beaurocrats/ Why not refuse permission on the grounds of "We've already got enough eating outlets"? At least that would be honest, true and sensible.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Sid
the reason they dont(the tory council) is they believe in market forces, so having to many is not an option for them.
ROGER
Unsure from your posting if your saying this establishment ok to continue even though your clearly aware it doesn't have permission, not sure where that decision could lead.
Guest 693- Registered: 12 Nov 2009
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I'm not entirely convinced that the planning permission issue is the main consideration here; from a purely business point of view, I believe that the siting of a café in a location where there is no parking and where one has to cross a busy road to get to is a really poor decision. Add to that the fact the Dover has, as Sid says, plenty of café-type establishments already that are better sited and mostly have an established reputation, and this is a highly risky venture. If and when it does open, I doubt the proprietor will be retiring to the Cayman Islands on the strength of it.
True friends stab you in the front.
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I see that the Alma Express that recently opened along Folkestone Road (next to Christchurch Court) has been closed for the past two weeks! What's happened?
It seems they were low on customers, but then customers are nowadays often low on money!
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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Alexander, this is the one we`re talking about mate.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith
You know as well as I do - and everyone else I'm sure, the Planning Officers decide on whether to approve or not, on planning material considerations, not what party is running the administration.
I'm not saying whether it's O.K. or not - I can't make those decisions on my own; I was saying that all those reasons for refusal, didn't appear to materialise when it was open.
Sid - A planning application could not be refused on those grounds. I did ask the planning department some time ago if they would/could introduce a sub-division in the class-use of businesses, so you would then have a maximum number of any particular business types
There would then be a limit on the number of cafes, mobile phone shops, charity shops etc. This I believe would stop a saturation of any particular type of business and create greater diversity.
Needless to say.............you guessed it - NO.
Roger
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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ROGER
Think you missed my point.
If you take that line you will be going AGAINST tory party policy of supporting market forces
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I don't agree that market forces are the only answer Keith; I've said on here before that you can't leave everything - including Town Centres, to market forces.
Whether it's against Conservative policy, matters not one iota.
Roger
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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OKAY ROGER
Interesting reply
Guest 696- Registered: 31 Mar 2010
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I did notice that when so many people were marching from York Street to priory Station when the planes were grounded owing to Iceland's vulcanic activities, and the buses could not transit to Priory Station owing to the works going on there at the time, not one person marching through stopped over at the Alma Express, even though they marched right past it! It seems that the vast majority didn't give a hoot for Dover and just marched through zombified! i hope they each paid a pound or two for the bus-ticket!
Guest 664- Registered: 23 Mar 2008
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Perhaps you need to live nearby to understand why a takeaway was unwelcome.
Residents' concern was based particularly on the prospect of tanked up yobs repairing to our private car park to scoff their junk food, while clambering over cars and leaving litter everywhere. A certain amount of that takes place anyway.
Meanwhile there is every chance that people would park in our car park, to say nothing of the inevitable late night noise and violence it woud attract.
They went ahead and brazenly opened a takeaway without planning permission and in my opinion have got what they deserved. We have suffered quite enough disruption here already, thankyou.