I am sure chamber members see this forum and must be aware of the allegations and dissatisfaction in Dover. This kind of thing spreads quickly, especially if forum members decide that it will. Perhaps one of their number might offer a reply? It is in the interests of transparency and relationship management.............
What will he actually be able to do , for example will he be able to do any thing about the depressing state between the cherry tree pub and the town hall ?
You would have thought so Bern so all we can do is draw our own conclusions from there silence!!
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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In these days of transparency the CofC should issue some form of statement regarding the accusations made, after all they weren't opposed to taking Council Tax Payers money.
The Chamber which after all represents business in this town should be 'squeaky' clean, ifnot then it is hardly likely to inspire confidence in those who are invited to join. The conspicuous silence only makes me curious and I shall delve a little more deeply into the issues raised.
Of course what I discover will be published, which includes any information gleaned from Companies House. I shall spare nobody providing I know that the information gathered is correct.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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That's the most important thing Dave1, anything found must be factually correct.
Roger
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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certainly the C of c needs to issue some kind of statement
will barryw resign from the c of c?
or maybe he supports the removal or roger?
the silence tells me he does
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Barry, who is Chairman of the Chamber of Commerce, is a very honest and well respected man.
I'd trust him with my life (I do with my money).
Barry has a Corporate Responsibility to the Chamber, so I would not expect him to come on here and say anything at all really. He is stuck between the proverbial rock and a hard-place on this one.
All those who have been and still are complicit in the lies and deceipt and illegal activities will be exposed and if they are still supporting this person, then they will fall too.
The Chamber's reputation is so important for its very existance and I'm sure the 150/160 odd members will not be amused when all this comes out, nor those bodies associated with him.
Roger
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Do find this a little bemusing.
On other post subjects we had a long drawn out postings on a person whom some felyt was not suitable for office and he was attacked by many
yet here we are with a leading forumite chair of c of c and he should according to Roger not have to say/do anything?
I can draw the conclusion that Barryw supported Rogers removal as I have heard nothing diffrent to this.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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It's called Corporate Responsibility Keith.
I'm sure that when a full investigation is held by the Chamber of Commerce (I have been assured that there will be one) Barry will speak and ask questions then - to the other members of the Board.
Cameron MacSween is very convincing, very convincing indeed; I know, I was taken in by him.
If the Chamber of Commerce believe him, then all is lost for them and they will have lost all integrity and credibility.
Roger
It is what happens, sadly: corporate responsibility means that a good guy like BarryW can be sucked into a badly managed situation even if he had no part to play in it. His colleagues owe him the grace of a public statement or comment.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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ROGER/BERN
Ihear where your coming from, won't comment on barryw as a good/bad person as I have no idea.
All i'm saying is, should as Roger suggests in parts the c of c decide to continue to let the situation go on.
And to me clearly by the new appointment they are going to, then will barryw continue as chair?
Will be interesting to see what happens
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Just out of curiosity, what will the new BSM be doing, and does it mean that they`ll be a few more shops opening? And if some do, how do we know whether they`d have opened anyway? Roger, I`m not sure whether I`ve read on here what the job actually entails.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
What won't be on the job description is: needs drive, enthusiasm and a keen networking ability. Roger to a T from what I've seen.
Brian Dixon
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the new job description now includes kiss arse,and must be a yes man.
Keith, you have as pretty much all of us on here, known BarryW long enough to understand roughly what sort of bloke he is. Your procrastination appears as a poorly veiled attempt to slur his character. Is that really what you wanted to acheive?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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some good words there sid.
being one of those who roll up the trouser leg, do you know the truth behind the mist?
I know nothing, I come from Barcelona!
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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I agree Sid, Barry is as straight as a die.
I'm also one who rolls up the trouser leg (or used to) Howard, but that didn't make any difference, nor should it, those who sacked me were/are also Freemasons, so that's a big red-herring.
It's not a Masonic problem, it's problem with two senior people at the Chamber.
I had a suggestion put to me yesterday, that maybe the salary is still £9,500, if the BSM (as Colin calls him) is only working part-time.
Maybe it suits Spencer, as he is still working hard outside the BSM job - and that is not casting aspirtions on him.
If this is the case (that's it should be a part-time job), why would one of the most important jobs in Dover, be valued as just a part-time one ? Defies logic or what ?
If this is the case, it allows the Chamber of Commerce to argue (in my view wrongly) they should keep the Town and District Council money as they now have a DBS Manager in place.
I would argue they have not completed their part of the agreement and have in fact taken both Councils for a ride.
Roger
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SID
I would not want to slur anyone, just interested how it will pan out.
On freemasons if you believe they were in the past a very dangerous organisation that could have affected your job prospects because when you went for a job interview u would be unaware you were dealing with a freemason.
Thankfully the freemasons have lost most of there controls.powers
but still operate
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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different hand shake nowadays keith.