howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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when our chief constable was appointed about 5 years ago he made two major points.
1) he made it clear that his skin colour would not be a consideration in his policing and that the subject would never be brought up by him again .
2)he would listen to the concerns of the people of kent and act on that, adding that anti social behaviour and loutishness would get "zero tolerance", how i hate that cliche.
he has now given an interview to the BBC stating that his skin colour means he has to work twice as hard to get promotion in the force. this coincides with the job at"the met" on offer.
how do forum posters feel about the effect his 5 years in kent has made on anti social behaviour and loutishness?
a brilliant bit of political power play from him, i have to admit.
the crux of the matter is, he has put pressure on the powers that be to choose him.
boris johnson would love to endorse him so that boris is seen as an innovative london mayor.
what is the betting on failure being rewarded again?
Brian Dixon
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howard if you go to the bookies you will get a 14 to 1 qoute to take blairs job.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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... and I think you will get 50,000 to 1 for Gene Hunt (of BBC Life on Mars fame) getting the job
Been nice knowing you :)
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Over the lat 6years I have wrote two letters to MR FULLER our chief Constable asking him to call it aday and go he talks well at meetings and I have been to some of them, but you about the story of the pudding and eating it, I do not think he is doing a good job in Kent and I am not talking behind his back I have told him that w need the old kind of policeman at the top and there are still some about.
Vic Matcham.
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Sorry my keypad is playing up,
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Sorry my keypad is playing up,
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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victor makes a good point here.
i was quite excited when fuller took over, he seemed to be a down to earth type.
certainly talked the talk, he has been careful to build up his CV showing him as man of the people.
goes out now and again with the local plod at nights to show that he is interested in what goes on.
the man is a qualified barrister, a necessary thing if you want to be a top politician.
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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HOWARD.
He is not agood policeman to have at the head, we have good policemen on the streets if you can find them but not that good at the top end to soft.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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victor
i fully agree with you, he has proved totally useless.
fully qualified for the top job now.
mahybe he is in the right lodge, who knows?
Guest 649- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Yes I think you are right hope he reads this post about him.
Vic M
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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I am completely agnostic about Fuller or any other Chief Constable
As far as I can see they get allowed to do the job the local Police Authority & local authority(ies) allow them to do.
You want old fashioned policing with bobbies on the beat, then you will get a better result by talking to KCC about funding the police, rather than talking to the Chief Constable who cannot magic money or officers out of thin air. Of course top cops are politicians more than policemen they have to deal with their funding masters after all.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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kent police are not that undermanned.
why did he make promises, then renege on them, without an apology or reason given?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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when you got six moterway cop cars covering the whole of kent and when they ask you how to get to the western hieghts roundabout.
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
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Because Howard as you have already said he is a politician
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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yes ross he is a barrister, they normally have no conscience just ambition.
the only true copper we have had in this country that made a difference was a bloke up in cleveland about a decade ago.
the locals called him robocop.
the problem was that he trod on a few too many toes.
it was found that he made the middlesborough area a bit too safe with his "heavyhanded" policing, naturally they got shot of him.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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I suppose it becomes necessary to raise the race issue at this point. Would a black officer want to go to the Met at this time as it seems to be a force riddled by racial difficulties. I wouldnt want to say actual racism, but racial difficulties.
Only yesterday the body that represents black officers said they advised young black men NOT to join the force...because they are being discriminated against and dont have a fair career, as enjoyed by their white equivalent. This is an incredible state of affairs in the 21st Century and needs to be put right.
Clearly there have been racial difficulties in some police forces in the past, as have been exposed by undercover TV journalists in recent times, a breed of journalism condemned by some on here recently, but this method brings to light some things that otherwise stay very very buried.
Considering the surrent situation at the Met, a black officer at the helm may be counter productive, until things are put on a more positive footing. Like I said...this is not something we should even feel it necessary to refer to in the modern age.
Guest 663- Registered: 20 Mar 2008
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I've always found Mike Fuller to be a very approachable person in any dealings I've had with him but that is just me there ways of working differ greatly with each area.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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mike fuller does come across as approachable.
not really the issue though.
he is paid loads of money to doing a job that clearly has not been done.
