Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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29 October 2008
13:458314The DG of the BBC has apologised for Ross and Brands unacceptable behaviour regarding their recent radio programme.The details of which I shall not repeat here.
However the good news is that both Brand and Ross have been suspended from broadcasting pending a full enquiry.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Brian Dixon
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29 October 2008
13:498315i hope they both get sacked,sooner the better.also i hope the chap and his granddaughter sue for liable.
Guest 641- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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29 October 2008
14:178319Glad to hear it
, I wonder how long it will last, let us hope it is not just a slap on the wrist. see my comments on Your Letters Page.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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29 October 2008
14:238320The BBC are coming across as weak over this. They have dragged their feet and the silence from Brand and Woss is deafening. I certainly agree the two of them should be sacked and no respectable boradcaster should even consider employing them again.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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29 October 2008
14:418327Barry W-S I read your and others comments on the Your letters page and I'm glad that there appears to be a consensus of agreement.I posted here in order to deter any unsavoury remarks about Sachs or his grand daughter.
They should both be sacked.Period as the Americans say.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 670- Registered: 23 Apr 2008
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29 October 2008
16:378336I find neither of them the least bit funny. I watched Brand once and personally the way he dressed and pranced round the stage thought perhaps he hadn't quite worked out what his sexuality is. Ross, having watched part of one of his programmes refuse to watch him again. Like Brand his language is terrible and I'm a bit old-fashioned I don't like bad language in my home from whatever source.
I think they should both be sacked and hope that no other tv company will touch them. The way they spoke about that old man was despicable.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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29 October 2008
20:368349brand has know resigned from the bbc,just hope that j.ross will do the decent thing and does the same.
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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29 October 2008
21:138350Can we hope this the beginning of the end of juvenile pranks and bad language trying to pass as comedy?
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
29 October 2008
22:588351Ross has never been funny, only smutty - cheap laughs are easy and boring. £18m pa? £18pa would be overpayment.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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29 October 2008
23:208354i have always smiled at ross and his over the top comments.
this incident is beyond the pale.
two things have to be noted here, it went out recorded, not live, so the BBC had a chance to stop it.
the time it took for the BBC to take action, there attitude seemed to be , it will all blow over.
apparently the islington set think that the mass population would find it acceptable that a 78 year old man should be
subjected to poisonous messages on his answering machine.
30 October 2008
08:098355Indeed Howard - I wonder where they have misplaced their funny bone? Who, honestly, would have thought it was funny to make obscene phone calls to an elder and then broadcast them to the nation in a premeditated way? It also appears from the half-hearted apologies from Brand and the refusal to resign from Ross that they don't really grasp that what they have done is not right. And the BBC are now seen as actively condoning loutish behaviour. A poor show.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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30 October 2008
09:118358Marek was interested to see that you noted the editorial difference needed between the OPEN pages and the Letters Club. Its very true and you are quite right, with open pages we have to be very cautious and a level of editorial control is needed there. The open pages are raw, even I dont have an edit button but do have a delete button, and thats the way I wanted it when we started and still like it that way.Its very fresh that way...but we are entirely prone to the possibility of spammers, pornographers, and worse. But so far its working quite well with many responsible postings and thats great to see. Above all the pages are open to all.
In the Letters Club we are all old pros and require no moderation of any kind which suits me greatly and allows me to get on with the next bit of magazine editorial.
It is though very important that the comments on those front pages are responsible or we end up like the BBC inundated with complaints as those pages are seen widely..ermm if not quite on the scale of the BBC.
So far the BBC have had 27,000 complaints about the 'orrible duo of Brand and Ross. I dont think these guys are ever quite as popular as the BBC would have you think.
Terry Nunn
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30 October 2008
11:418368I must admit that I was very surprised that Russell Brand was given a spot on Radio 2. That station, let's face it, is background music in doctor's surgeries everywhere. It was part of a drive to attract a younger audience and stop it being another "Saga FM" but they went too far.
He would be more at home on Virgin, or whatever it's called now.
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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30 October 2008
14:068374Would be interested to know how many people actually listened to the program that complained and how many just jumped on the bandwagon cos that is what they do ?
I wouldn't say that the program is mainstream and in the context it was broadcast it didn't seem that bad, they may have gone over the top but that is what they do and if you don't like it don't listen to it !!
I also wonder what the difference between this (other than it was on the persons phone) and what comments are made about people on Have I Got News For You and other comedy programs - I am sure that there is a lot worse and possibly liableous comments are made on them ??
Been nice knowing you :)
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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30 October 2008
14:208375Paul
There can be nothing worse than a ratbag like Brand ringing you up to tell you he has *ucked your grand daughter.Thats the word used by Ross and Brand.
Sorry its not acceptable.
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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30 October 2008
14:448376...s'pose, but agreeing to go onto the radio show in the first place with either of them is asking for it (though they did go over the top) ??
Been nice knowing you :)
Sid Pollitt
30 October 2008
16:288377Is this a case of political correctness gone mad? I thought only two people who had heard the show had complained, and haven't they apologised? I thought that the comments on Have I got News For You about Richard Whiteley were close to the knuckle but haven't heard any complaints about that show. Does anyone who didn't see Have I Got News For You, not any of you who did see it obviously, want to start a hue and cry about that programme?
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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30 October 2008
16:588379I dont know what is PC about this. It is all about standards and the way the BBC in so many ways chases the lowest common denominator.
I did not hear the original programme and at first did not bother to read what was said in the newspapers, then I caught what was said on the News and listened to more on the internet. While I did not send in a complaint, I certainly regard what happened to be utterly unacceptable behaviour for any broadcaster and verges on the illegal. I have a vested interest in the quality of broadcasting as do all of us with TV's and radios, and as such have a perfect right to object to such appalling broadcast behaviour.
Brand has gone and now Ross should be sacked. Time to make a stand for some decent standards to be imposed and to no longer accept the dross that we so often get served up.
30 October 2008
17:518384Frighteningly, I agree with you again BarryW. We have paid those eejits large wads to demonstrate how to be bad mannered, loutish and break the law for money. And the BBC, using our money, has done the same - what a good example to give. It's immaterial how many people heard it - we have heard of it and it happened and was broadcast. we should treat our elders with more respect.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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30 October 2008
20:508392i listened this evening to a former boss of channel 5, he reckoned the idea was(as mentioned previously) to get yoof listening.
his argument was that yoof are not all stupid and are not necessarily impressed by swearing from middle aged men.
i thought that was a very good point.
incidentally the controller of radio 2 has now fallen on her sword.
she said it was purely her own decision!!