Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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Sorry about this, but after those pleasant picture`s of Deal town centre this morning, followed by a long walk out St Radigunds and River and a bus back to town, this was the sight that greeted me in Dover town centre at 14.30 this afternoon. A drinker sprawled out on the public bench, beer bottle and can under the bench, and that`s the rear of a police van on the extreme left, though I don`t know where they were. Two cruise ships in port, plenty of visitor`s about, though further down at the market, what a good advert that chap is. Along with derelict building`s, this is one of Dover`s major problems. The drunk! Not against people getting drunk of course, but out of public view.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Theres loads of them usually hiding in pencester but these ones are the new ones that drink outside m&s daily.
I walked past that very scene Colin - the police van, the inebriate, the depressed air. Not a good advertisement at all - and there were plenty of visitors in town to be encouraged. And yet further down I was halted in my tracks - again - at the beauty of the Town Hall, down the side where that lovely tree grows and the flowers have been tended, near the tourist shop. I intended there and then to paint the scene - it was awesome. I will take a photo tomorrow and get painting!
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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It is nice round there Bern, and I sometimes get a salad roll from Rooks and eat it there. Watch the variety of people passing by, any I know.
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Bloody hell. That was me en route to Deal> Mea Culpa.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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In that case Bob, I`m sure a drunk must have been there before you, and as you were laying there sunbathing afterwards, it gave a completely false picture of what this was all about mate.
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Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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There should be no drunks allowed in the Town Centre.
Worthington Street is just opposite there, so next time you see a drunk and there's no Police, who you gonna call ? no, not GhostBusters - Spencer, DBS Manager; 229111 is his number. He'll sort it for you.
Roger
Guest 700- Registered: 11 Jun 2010
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Drunks and people who spit, shout and swear are a disgrace to any town and should be controlled.
Emma PHILPOTT, on a charge of drunk and disorderly "on Thursday night". The Bench sent her "below" for a week in default of payment (no more information) (Dover Standard 13 Jan 1877 p.8, col.6)
Thomas MANN at Dover Petty Sessions - sentenced to 14 days imprisonment for being drunk and disorderly
(Dover Telegraph 24 Apr 1847 p.8 col.2)
Frederick KEYTON, marine store dealer, charged with drunkenness... fined 16 shillings
(Dover Telegraph Sat Dec 27 1856 p.8)
Mary RILEY was charged by Supt. Laker with loitering about the streets in a state of comparative nudity. The charge was supported by P.C.Geddes who took her into custody. It was also stated that a shilling had been given the prisoner by W.P.Elsted Esq. with the understanding that she should get out of town, which however she had not done - ordered to leave the town forthwith.
(Dover Telegraph Sat. Dec.1 1849, p.8 col.2, Dover Petty Sessions)
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Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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Lots of public houses in those days Kath,and probably part of their life, but back to the present, and we have sufficient laws in place to deal with it now, so why aren`t they dealing with it?
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Brian Dixon
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colin,two words red tape or if you prefer paper work.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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Like the railways Brian, anything noted untowards that might look dangerous has to be reported, and any near collision`s or the like in a yard etc has to be reported as a near miss. Then all the report writing begins, and question`s asked, so if you prefer doing your usual line of work outside, rather than writing reports inside, just look the other way and ignore it.
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Q. "why aren't they dealing with it".
A. There's no money in it.
We have zero tolerance for motorists because they are a cash cow. We are spending money on PCSO's who can't do "Jackxxxx" instead of frontline Rozzers who can.
The country has got its priorities all wrong in this and other areas and it is high time we had the "Eds" to change things.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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There`s the mechanism in place, so maybe as long as he quietly sleeps there, he`s not creating a nuisance, and bothering any visitors to the town. Another angle from the top. By the way, who he is not what I`m seeking on here, it`s just the suggestion to have zero tolerance in the town centre for this sort of thing.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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the town centre copper is usually on the ball but cannot be there all the time, we need 2 or 3 on foot to solve the problems mentioned.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The DPAC/Shopwatch phone should be reduced in price so all shops, or at least every other shop, could have access to one and then they could report ALL incidents - moving drunks on, or locking them up for a few hours; playing football in Cannon Street or Biggin Street; theft from shops - all could be dealt with quicker if all shops had access to these phones.
I was laising with the Chairman of DPAC when at DBS; I don't know if Spencer would be allowed to do this kind of thing.
DBS is (or rather should be) all about moving the Town forward on many levels and supporting businesses in many different ways too.
Roger
Guest 662- Registered: 18 Mar 2008
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Drunks aside, I bought my visiting in-laws into Town for a walk on Saturday Evening and was extremely embarrassed by the litter and overflowing litter bins on the Market Square, it looked dreadful. Is this the aftermath of resurrecting a Saturday Market? Sheli x
Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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The fabulous Wednesday and Saturday markets in the Place Dalton in Boulogne-sur-Mer have a solution to getting rid of the rubbish generated by the market: they clear it up immediately. Within half an hour of the stalls packing up all the litter and detritus has gone.
I've watched the Boulogne street cleaning team do this, from the vantage point of Chez Jules restaurant on the square. And the whole square is hosed down, cleaned and scrubbed too. It's a sight to behold.
Innovative stuff, eh?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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most towns operate a clean up after a market, not being in town of a saturday evening i thought that we were doing the same.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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My understanding was that SITA were contracted/paid to collect the market litter and rubbish.
Maybe they're not being paid.
Roger
Guest 660- Registered: 14 Mar 2008
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Saw the police moving a drunk on that same bench yesterday,well they didn't move him,I think he was making a pest of himself,and was warned.
If you knew what I know,we would both be in trouble!
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
