Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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10 December 2008
17:1010735Marek - your immagination runs wild...
There is much that can be cut from bloated public spending that will not affect front line services in health and education for instance. I have many times explained where there are massive cuts available but it is not convenient to address what we are really saying but to make your own absurd assumptions.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
10 December 2008
17:1610737very good merak.but there is a small cure for these hooray henrys and thats putting them on the shop floor so to speak,giving them jobs at the minimum wage for a 40 hour week on a 2 year contract.thisin afect may bring them back to realalty.
10 December 2008
17:4510745More importantly, we undervalue the "real" jobs - health care assistants, occupational therapists, carers, nursery nurses - all are paid a pittance for a crucial job. They may not need vast amounts of qualifications or a higher education, but it's the jobs that they do that count. Without them the country could not flourish. And, socialist though I am (and that doesn't necessarily mean I support "New Labour"!!) I am struggling to understand why, if they really want to support the disadvantaged, our government is trying to force people on benefits into jobs that are already taken by others, some not British. This isn't a "come over here taking our jobs etc" rant, I have no problem with immigration, it is a vital part of the world economy and an important part of our support for the vulnerable and threatened from other nations - but the point is, a high proportion of the rapidly receding job market is filled by people from other countries who are not burdened with the Benefits mindset, who haven't the disadvantage of coming from 3 generations of benefits families and don't know any different and haven't the role models. There is clearly a hidden (!) agenda at work, and that is politics at its lowest, frankly.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 December 2008
20:2310762roger
you would be offended if i called you a fascist, so kindly do not refer to me as a socialist.
1) this 1970's twaddle talk is out moded
2) i know what i am, better than you do.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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11 December 2008
08:1610798Well Howard, if you're not a Socialist, I'm a Dutchman.
I've never heard you extoll anthing other than the virtues of Socialism and the benefits of having a Labour Government.
If it came across as an insult, I apologise for insulting you; there's many people on here who seem to put forward, sometimes, Conservative views, but are proud to call themselves Socialists.
People seem to think that because they feel they are working class, or have working class roots (don't we all), that they must be Labour: not at all, my background is as working class at they come, but I am proud to call myself a Conservative - and I do care about the less able and vulnerable in our society, but I loath scroungers and people who take from the State because they are plain and simply, lazy.
Roger
11 December 2008
17:2710829Thatcher started all this crap. Blair and McBroon have carried it on. Greedy self-serving chumps, the lot of 'em.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
11 December 2008
17:4810832whos going to finish it.
11 December 2008
19:3510836That will be the sole effort at partnership working this crowd can manage............