Town Hall restoration
- 18 July 2016 11:22315837I suspect the decision has already been made to convert part of it into holiday lets.
- 18 July 2016 12:13315839What a shame thanks to previous governments all shades money to local councils has been cut .No money to keep our heritage.If politicians spent less time making changes and less paperwork and meetings to discuss meetings and applied common sense we would all jog olong much better.
I shall be very sad to see part of the Town Hal used as holiday lets. - 18 July 2016 12:38315840It is either that or let parts of the building decay further, many stately homes have a part for holiday lets and even Dover Castle lets out the Sergeant Major's house.
- 18 July 2016 13:35315841Sue Nicholas wrote:What a shame thanks to previous governments all shades money to local councils has been cut.
But this is owned by the District Council, Sue. Maybe with all the staff cuts at Whitfield and the proposed unitary authority there will be so few staff left that they could be moved back into the town hall where they belong, so it's easier for disgruntled locals to get at them!Guest 1767 likes this - 18 July 2016 13:42315842They can go into Castle street good staff in there and very helpfull
- 18 July 2016 13:44315843Didn't word my post very well, was thinking more of making the councillors and meetings more accessible.
Jan Higgins likes this - 18 July 2016 13:55315844Just go into the town council office or castle st, and you can always phone the one you need up and they will come to you. Its very easy to get hold of a district cllr or town cllr.Some have day jobs so you might have a wait.
- 18 July 2016 18:15315848I see where Ray is coming from.With talk of a unitary authority ,we could see meetings taking place in Dover Town Hall.I think the annual meeting should be held there.This weeks Full Council meeting is packed with questions and I think four motions plus a Question from a member of the public re Lydden Circuit.Certainley an entertaining evening .
- 28 July 2016 12:50316139A chance for us all to have our say.
http://www.dover.gov.uk/Leisure-Culture-Tourism/Heritage--Museums/Town-Hall/Maison-Dieu-Restoration-Project.aspx - Jan Higgins
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28 July 2016 13:19316141I was going to fill in the survey but stopped when the ethnic question appeared as I have no idea why that should be necessary.
I doubt any survey will alter the already thought out DDC or DTC plans so why bother.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
------------------------------------------------------------------- - 28 July 2016 14:57316145I never answer the ethnicity question as I don't see the point. Say for example an English person descended from Indian grandparents who migrated here many years ago he or she would technically have to tick the Asian box even though they never seen India.
- Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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28 July 2016 23:27316170howard mcsweeney1 wrote:A chance for us all to have our say.
http://www.dover.gov.uk/Leisure-Culture-Tourism/Heritage--Museums/Town-Hall/Maison-Dieu-Restoration-Project.aspx
Exactly Howard. And hopefully before we 'have our say' we'll read the background briefing to know what we are talking about:- http://www.dover.gov.uk/Leisure-Culture-Tourism/Heritage--Museums/Town-Hall/Statement-of-Significance.pdf
There have been a number of 'consultations' now for all interested parties, including the great unwashed, which have been somewhat sparsely attended.
Perhaps Dover is wasted on Dovorians?
No decisions have been made but an outline plan is being formulated to bring the property back into much better use for the community (dread word).
The 'holiday lets' would be managed by the Landmark Trust http://www.landmarktrust.org.uk/ as is the stunning Pugin House in Ramsgate which would provide a revenue stream to stop relying on hard working Council Tax payers to sink money in to the property just to stop it deteriorating.
The spaces are not used efficiently. Catering is is the wrong area, those who should be front of house are back of house and at the annual DODS pantomime the Seven Persons of Restricted Height have had to get changed in the bogs.
The basement is split up into over 70 tiny rooms with non structural walls housing artifacts from the museum which do not see the light of day from one year to the next.
PLEASE read the documentation and have your two pennyworth.
Fortunately there are lots of people who have a go at the Lottery so we have the opportunity to get the work done by a tax based on stupidity rather than a tax based on Dover residence.
What's not to like?Judith Roberts, howard mcsweeney1 and Reginald Barrington like this"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - Ross Miller
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29 July 2016 00:32316172Well Cap'n between the usual dose of bile and vitriol there is some fair points there well made."Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi - Captain Haddock
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29 July 2016 10:17316174Ross Miller wrote:the usual dose of bile and vitriol
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson - 30 November 2016 15:44321334On the agenda at full council later completion planned for 2024 so no great hurry then.
http://moderngov.dover.gov.uk/documents/s19817/Restoration%20of%20Maison%20Dieu%20Report.pdf - 2 December 2016 14:41321415A major bid to the Heritage Lottery Fund for a multi-million pound restoration of the Maison Dieu in Dover has been given the go ahead at a meeting of Dover District Council.
https://www.dover.uk.com/news/2016/maison-dieu-restoration-projectJan Higgins and howard mcsweeney1 like this - 2 December 2016 14:55321418Thanks Chris some positive news for a change
- Jan Higgins
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2 December 2016 15:13321421I see it still includes self catering accommodation which is an idea I still have doubts about.-----------------------------------------------------------------------
I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
------------------------------------------------------------------- - 2 December 2016 15:39321422I think that income from holiday lets will secure the future of the Maison Dieu plus will bring spin off income to the town centre shops, pubs and restaurants. There is so much of the building not being used at present. English Heritage and the National Trust derive great income from holiday lets.
- Captain Haddock
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2 December 2016 16:57321430Chris wrote:A major bid to the Heritage Lottery Fund for a multi-million pound restoration of the Maison Dieu in Dover has been given the go ahead at a meeting of Dover District Council.
https://www.dover.uk.com/news/2016/maison-dieu-restoration-project
The big laugh about the Lottery Funding is that however worthy, sensible or even necessary your project is, 10% of funding must be spent on 'community engagement' (dread phrase).
This means that DDC are scratching their arses trying to find ways of wasting over a million pounds on such as providing the spawn of the denizens of St Radigunds with stained-glass workshops (whereas the closest they will get to 'stained glass restoration' is wiping old lipstick stains off pint glasses in Wetherspoons)"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
