Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,235
Just Sioux wrote:What’s wrong with Squaw?
It's long been considered derogatory by indigenous Americans not used by themselves but used to describe them.
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,008
What's wrong with 'What's wrong with Squaw?' is that it's making a basic category error.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,987
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,008
Of course, it is madness, and more evidence of the age of unreason that is upon us, as if we needed any. But, again, it's not a 'gender' thing.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
- Posts: 436
Listened to an individual being interviewed on the radio yesterday regarding the completion of the census form. This person was in a dilemma as the form apparently asks what gender you identify as being. The dilemma arose as this person had a number of different personalities and could identify as female one day, male on another or non- binary on another, so wasn’t sure how to complete the form!
I don’t know how the interviewer kept going!
Why oh why do we pander to this lunacy?
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Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
to keep the nosey government happy.
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,822
Arthur wrote:
Why oh why do we pander to this lunacy?
To try and pretend we accept everything a minority group decide they want however reasonable or idiotic.
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I try to be neutral and polite but it is hard and getting even more difficult at times.
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Andy B
- Location: dover
- Registered: 10 Nov 2012
- Posts: 1,746
Post 25,i think they call it recreational transgender??
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,008
Sex takes on self ID in court today.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,865
Put down one thing
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,008
FPFW won its case yesterday. Judge found ONS Census guidance on the sex question to be unlawful. ONS must withdraw that part of the guidance. JR next week, but Judge appears to believe it's a formality.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-56338666
Case shows just how high up the capture of institutions by the lobbyists has gone.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,865
I wonder if others think we get to bogged down with all this ?
ALL POSTS ARE MY OWN PERSONAL VIEWS
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,008
Perhaps ask these 'others'?
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
- Posts: 436
It’s no longer possible to have a reasoned debate or opinion on certain subjects- mainly race, gender or mental health. It seems to me that anyone who has a problem blames it on their mental health and it’s obviously someone else’s fault. It’s become the default position.
I have close friends who have a son-in-law of Pakistani heritage. His wife has Nordic heritage and we discussed the likelihood of what the baby would look like. My friends looked up genetical information regarding dominant and recessive genes because it was interesting- not racially motivated but to learn. We talked about it in a reasoned manner.
I currently despair of the outrage - no longer possible to have rational conversation.
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Arthur, I agree completely, we are no longer free to discuss in a reasonable polite manner anything without someone either getting self righteous or just plain rude with their opposite view never mind the stupid 'snowflake' remarks.
As for the mental health issue I doubt there is anyone who has not 'suffered' from poor mental health at some time or another, a bereavement, job problem, home life problems, the vast majority do not go shouting about it usually those after attention or sympathy rather than having a serious problem in need of medical help.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,008
Of course it's still 'possible' to have rational debate, and the FPFW case demonstrates that. A number of things are against it, though: the power of orthodox thinking to capture weak minds and resist independent thought; the tendency of print and broadcast media to enforce this; proliferating restrictions on speech, both formal (legislative) and informal (social media platforms); the power of minority lobbyists over government, parliament, civil service, and corporates; an increasingly politicised police force active in patrolling 'hate' speech; the unwillingness or simple inability of many to engage in it.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
- Posts: 436
Perhaps it’s simply easier not to engage in conversation anymore
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,008
Well, that's the best way to lose a case.
This is excellent on how the lobbyists and their parliamentary committee work secretively to push through changes in gender legislation. At the heart of it is Tory MP Crispin Blunt.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/revealed-the-secret-trans-rights-lobbying-operation-in-parliament/ampArthur likes this
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
- Posts: 436
Thank you for the article- a really fascinating read and very worrying. Led me to some other equally informative reading. I may sign up to The Spectator.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,235
You should do it soon, there's Gin.
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