Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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Carry on Nurse meets Carry on Up the Jungle!
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Good job Bob has his private meds to fall back on
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,782
Keith Sansum1 wrote:Good job Bob has his private meds to fall back on
Keith you have already said that.
A bit like Bob I would be more concerned that some idiot chose to employ someone who must have had such poor language skills that they refused an English test.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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And wages that are high , but Bob has alternatives so he doesn't have to worry if the rest of it got sold off
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Keef, I can assure you that I do indeed worry about the NHS but have no wish to sacrifice my own well-being, and indeed longevity, on a point of principle.
Having set up the first National Health Service (total bollocks. Social Health Insurance schemes were introduced in Germany in 1883 and Norway became the first country to adopt a universal healthcare policy in 1912) which is the envy of the world (more rubbish, the funding model of which has been copied by absolutely no-one) I no longer see it as having health care outcomes comparable to other industrialised countries.
Since the last Royal Commission on the National Health Service, set up by the Wilson government in 1975 to consider the "best use and management of the financial and manpower resources of the NHS", the world has moved on in terms of computerisation, technology and communication to name but three
'Our' Health Service has not.
Over £10 billion was spent on and NHS IT system before it was abandoned, so (in my own case) my GPs computer does not speak to QEQMs computer which does not speak to my consultant's computer leaving my health care information to be accessed only once it has been sent as an e-mail attachment by the girl who only works mornings except she's been isolating at home and can't work the computer from there due to patient confidentiality (in spite of the fact that I personally know one of the chiefs of a big five UK bank and also someone who works for one of our 'sensitive' Government Departments who have both been WFH)
The NHS needs a Royal Commission to look at it root and branch.
When Jeff Bezos wanted to design a system to deliver almost anything I want at a discounted price by lunchtime tomorrow he didn't suggest that the solution was more sodding postmen and I should stand on my front step clapping them for going in to work and doing the job they'd chosen to do even if they were rushed off their arses at Christmas and couldn't we employ more postmen from abroad .........
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
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Javid's in a fix because he sacked careworkers. Now there are too few care staff to take the elderly bed-blocking in the hospitals. To import foreign labour 'without any background in the health sector' to replace trained and experienced care staff takes a special kind of genius common, but not exclusive, to politicians.
As for the lass in Lancashire, she's nobbut a mard-arsed kid.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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I don't disagree it needs a revamp
And I don't think any one disagrees
It's how you get there we may differ
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:Javid's in a fix because he sacked careworkers. Now there are too few care staff to take the elderly bed-blocking in the hospitals. To import foreign labour 'without any background in the health sector' to replace trained and experienced care staff takes a special kind of genius common, but not exclusive, to politicians.
As for the lass in Lancashire, she's nobbut a mard-arsed kid.
To be fair to Javid I do not think he really had any other option at the time, those who were sacked
chose not to be vaccinated so could have put many vulnerable people in danger of being seriously ill or dying.
Beds have been blocked for years long before the present covid crisis.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Jan Higgins wrote:...those who were sacked chose not to be vaccinated so could have put many vulnerable people in danger of being seriously ill or dying.
Given the vaccines prevent neither infection nor transmission (because they weren't designed to do so) please explain how Javid's 'only option' was supposed to work in practice, JH.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Neil Young has just left the forum ....
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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The vaccines help without ashadow of doubt
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:Given the vaccines prevent neither infection nor transmission (because they weren't designed to do so) please explain how Javid's 'only option' was supposed to work in practice, JH.
Vaccination enables the body's own means of defence to react more quickly and efficiently to prevent a virus from overcoming its victim. In doing so, they reduce both infection and transmission. Go talk to a virologist. Neil Young had a lot more sense than some.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Neil Young's not accepting my calls right now (something I said, obviously). So if there's another virologist on here who can answer my question in #69 I'd be grateful. You might also care to explain why Javid withdrew the mandate for NHS workers. Thanks.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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ray hutstone wrote:Vaccination enables the body's own means of defence to react more quickly and efficiently to prevent a virus from overcoming its victim. In doing so, they reduce both infection and transmission. Go talk to a virologist. Neil Young had a lot more sense than some.
Thank you Ray for giving an explanation that WGS might understand.
I was too irritated and surprised to reply to such an ill informed reply from WGS, so my computer is shutting down until later.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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My computer has protection against abject ignorance.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Well said Ray and Jan
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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This self-congratulation is entertaining, but my question in #69 remains unanswered.
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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FFS Full Fact
While they don’t reduce the risk completely, multiple studies have shown vaccines do have a meaningful impact on your chances of catching or passing on the virus once you’ve been vaccinated. Early evidence suggests a booster vaccine will strengthen this effect even more (as any fule kno!).
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:This self-congratulation is entertaining, but my question in #69 remains unanswered.
Life is too short. The explanations are all out there for anyone with the brain power to understand them.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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I agree with Bob
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