Button
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Hm; ATA Carnet maybe?
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Captain Haddock wrote:Seriously Button I've never understood why countries make trade unnecessarily sticky.
As far as I can see the new agreement is that the EU will stop buggering us around just because they could.
Perhaps we and they could start doing that with goods going across the channel?
My No3 daughter is a designer with a rather famous fashion group and has one Hell of a time taking samples and half finished 'frocks' between the design studio in London and the manufacturers in Italy.
It's known as a single market or free trade association. The USA has been operating their own for donkey's years. Likewise China. And if we do ever join the much vaunted CPTTP, we'll find that they'll bugger us about in exactly the same way.
Odd, isn't it, that countries tend to trade more effectively with their nearest neighbours, particularly when the have a very high collective GDP. Confusing, I know.
Don't you ever wonder why Maggie considered our joining it her greatest achievement? Oh well. Never mind.
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Captain Haddock
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Tks Button. I'll ask her. She's in Paris for a big show next week. I keep on getting confused with that bloke who drove his m/c over the fence.
Perhaps now we're all acting as grown ups, since we're still members of Frontex, we negotiate access to Eurodac - which we used to have as part of the Dublin agreement?
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Button- Location: Dover
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I used to like that film. Particularly the part where my father would gripe "that's a blooming post-war bike, you can tell by the safety knob on the end of the throttle lever".
No.3 Daughter's Chamber of Commerce will know for sure; I think the samples have to come back (ie. come back out of the EU) at some point.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Apparently the insurance people wouldn't allow him to jump the fence but he WAS allowed to be one of the Germans chasing what was himself.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Impressed with Sunak yesterday. Felt like a return to adult politics. Now watch Johnson squirm - does he try and trash the deal and all that momentum for his own, shameless self promotion? or does he run ahead of the crowd and try and play the role of hero and get the DUP onboard?
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victor matcham- Registered: 5 Oct 2021
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Mr Johnson was a good PM THERE will not be many like him.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Not the best on 'detail' though Vic!
Sometimes it's really useful to have someone who is very boring but actually gets the job done?
(Though not as boring as Starmer obvs
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victor matcham wrote:Mr Johnson was a good PM THERE will not be many like him.
All I can say is thank goodness. I hope we never see anyone like him again, sadly I guess we will at some time in the future.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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Johnson was/is a clown - hence you get a circus. Sunak seems annoyingly ok.
Button- Location: Dover
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Neil Moors wrote:Impressed with Sunak yesterday. Felt like a return to adult politics.
Yes, credit where it's due; I bet 54 The Strand must be well chuffed - probably see tweets galore, I shouldn't wonder.
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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Neil Moors wrote:Johnson was/is a clown - hence you get a circus. Sunak seems annoyingly ok.
Sunak has swept up the mess left behind by Johnson's fusillade of lies. Just a shame it took 3 years of pain and idiocy for the Tory party to realise it. Brexit still isn't done though. We have Mogg's ludicrous reform bill and the decision of the DUP and the few remaining headbangers to look forward to yet.
You must have had an irony by-pass to fail to apppreciate Sunak eulogising about what a wonderfully advantageous trading position the Northern Irish are set to enjoy.
Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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It did raise a smile. They know.
Still waiting for Johnson's response. He must be apoplectic.
Button- Location: Dover
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Well, according to the BBC (
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-64823710) he said "I'm going to find it very difficult to vote for something like this myself, as I believe we should have done something different."
The deal would act as a "a drag anchor on divergence" from the EU, he added.
"Brexit is nothing unless we in this country don't do things differently."
Don't think I understood any of that really.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Seen this Button? Four years before people say 'yes, why ever not'.
I honestly don't understand the hold up. I thought we were all on 'the same side' and I'm sure the EU would find a reciprocal arrangement useful?
And if anyone says Data Protection Act or the like I shall scream! - Especially if they have TicTok on their mobile.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/mar/01/uk-police-and-border-force-to-remain-locked-out-of-eu-database-of-criminals"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
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One paragraph might have given you a clue:-
The UK joined SIS II in April 2015. It provided a mechanism for EU-member states to share and act on real-time data on persons and objects of interest including wanted and missing persons.
Button- Location: Dover
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Um. I thought Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland participate in SIS II.
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