Brian Dixon
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that's more like the tory caninet meeting howard.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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wait until he orders a take away from his local Chinese shop
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
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The to be President is not worried about alienating anyone, he must be a total nightmare to all those who have to sort out the repercussions of his voiced thoughts.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I have gone back to number one of this thread and most things I said have started to come to pass.
My big prediction for the Middle East will be that the big 3 china America and the Russians will carve it up 3 ways and take the oil and enforce governance.
I do not see war with the super powers only trade and currency differences.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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I think I'm with jan on this, whilst Trump is liked by a few as outspoken, hes hardly one of us as he makes out, from his background explains that, and American politics is quite different as to who could afford to stand.
But hes there, he now has to please the far right whom he played up to during the election campaign whilst trying to keep his own party in check whom don't support him.
On top of this we have the world stage which trump is already faltering on.
its those that have to pick up the pieces behind him
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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I don't he realises how to behave as President yet even the Chinese find it amusing that he seems to make policy via Twitter but the upside is that he is clearly against military intervention in other countries pledging to spend the money on the underfunded roads, bridges and airports at home that have been decaying over the years.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I think world leaders will get used to the trump way of doing things quickly.
He isn’t one of us as keef says. i agree
Trump is a capitalist who I think no longer give a hoot about money
He’s a nationalist at hart at the end of his life ,that can see the capitalist system has become too corporate and globalist.
He’s the president of a country that’s on the eve of financial disintegration with a population armed to the teeth, growth and trade will be his priorities.
I think trump understands the pitchforks philosophy now facing capitalism. hopefully
https://www.ted.com/talks/nick_hanauer_beware_fellow_plutocrats_the_pitchforks_are_comingCaptain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
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Trump is an idiot. He understands little of economics or what is driving changes in trade flow and his proposals of tariff barriers would screw up USA plc even further. He's not even that good a businessman.
Nick Hanauer is starting to 'get it'. At a UK level the question we should all be asking is how do you stop the great unwashed from revolting when their fantasy routes to riches of doing 'more hours' or getting a 'better job' no longer exist?
Putting it bluntly what do you do with people who are too lazy to pick vegetables and too thick to be
bankers?
Bank of England Governor, Mark Carney, 'gets it' too and has warned that “up to 15 million of the current jobs in Britain could be automated over time”.
http://www.cbronline.com/4th-revolution/robots-automation-destroy-15-million-uk-jobs-mark-carney/
And I wonder how many of that 15 million will be EC nationals who we are all (sic) so keen to give permission to stay in the UK post Brexit? They might be marginally good for the GDP while they are serving each other coffee but just wait until they all start signing on!
Take a little time out and watch this:-
and you might have an inkling of what is going on. (The book itself is on my Christmas wish list)
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"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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I will let you into a secret captain .
peopled don’t need that much stuff ,a home food warmth family and interaction with others.
We pay over the top for all them things ,we pay £20000 for a £50000 to build house to keep them clever bankers happy.
Food mostly overpriced because of rich farmer working the system .same with energy.
This over pricing and the rise of the bullshit jobs that we all must pay to maintain created for the middle-class after deindustrialization.
Price may go up if America protects its workers ,but if the ripping off of the public stops it’s all afordabuil .
If they and us produce what we genially do need at a wage we can all survive on, the west will be in a better place .
The robotic revolution will never happen you don’t get better or cheaper than man .
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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kieth,are you promoating a peoples republic,with a hint of a coop divi.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Keith,
I will let you into a secret too!
Just two words - Smoot-Hawley!
http://www.economist.com/node/12798595
Doh!
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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No Brian, just a more balanced society where people do not have to spend 2 thirds of their income on rent food and heating .
Bob
All I am saying is in the west we have allowed companies to export jobs to the slave shops of the east. Dirty production and crap disposable goods .
All them cheap goods come at a high price to the greater society .in the west we have used taxation to support bullshit job creation for the middle classics whilst abandoning the working class to the global markets .
We could have had half price solicitor’s doctors teachers accountants and no taxpayer funded gold plated pensions , if they had been exposed to the true global markets.
But the governments have protected them workers with the closed shop . Not so the working class ,in fact its celebrated that we import the cheap builder factory or hotel worker .
and billet them ten to a house .
If your customers have no cash you have no trade .
I think trump fully realises the impact of this imbalance on society
If they don’t kill him first you will see state funded infrastructure delivered at the true price not the backhander ripped of taxpayer price .
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Reginald Barrington
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Keith I would generally agree with you, but your Faith in trumps realisation of this imbalance whilst perhaps correct is the reason he's got millions in the bank i.e. made from the exploitation of the working classes.
Arte et Marte
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Reginald .
Its America what do you expect only the rich or the bought can get to the top.
If trump rolls back from the Russians helps end the proxy wars around the world and help to stop globalisation it will be a start.
The left in the west are paralysed, the citizens do not like mass migration political correctness
Or Islamification
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Farage will be priming the pumps regarding the true workings of the EU and all the EU snakes in the British parliment .
Trump will be well informed.
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Keith Bibby wrote:
Trump will be well informed.
If you honestly believe that Trump, or indeed anyone else in America, actually gives a damn about our trading arrangement with the EU, you are seriously deluded.
Brexit is even pushed to a couple of tiny paragraphs in the European Press on page 5 (if mentioned).
The caravan has moved on. The world does not really care and will continue not to care however many column inches appear in our press or on the forum as we continue to contemplate our navels.
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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America will be looking to trade EU and UK with the minim red tape .
America its likely to give china the boot and will be looking for partners.
Reginald Barrington- Location: Dover
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Trump might be an idiot but even he's not so stupid as to cut ties with china!
Remember Keith dreams aren't real
Arte et Marte