Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,072
Brian, it's a post truth age. Get with the programme!
You'll be telling us next that the greatest privitisation of our (sic) NHS was under labour with PFI and that Labour closed more pits than Thatcher ever did!
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,072
Keith Bibby wrote:
I don’t see Clive Lewis as an effective replacement for J C, he’s still a keep the doors open politician and full of silly statement like give them a union card that should fix the problem . makes you wonder what he learned about strategy at Sandhurst ?
Looks like he's got the imprimatur of Momentum? As for Sandhurst I suggest if he's learnt nothing else it will be that in urban warfare (and politics!) the advantage accrues to the side with the least regard for civilians!
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
- Posts: 23,940
captain,thatcher closed the pits,ended free milk and buggerd the trade union movement.not she was a bi##h but there you have it
she is now stoking the fires in hades.
she also sold off all utillatys to our continental coisins at bargin basement prices.
Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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Brian Dixon wrote:captain,thatcher closed the pits,ended free milk and buggerd the trade union movement.not she was a bi##h but there you have it
she is now stoking the fires in hades.
she also sold off all utillatys to our continental coisins at bargin basement prices.
I've always had a fascination with people who re-write history.
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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david,not rewritten but factul
Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,257
Prime minister's Harold Wilson in 1968 and then Edward Heath in 1971 are the guilty ones for stopping school milk Thatcher just happened to be education Secretary at the time so got labelled the milk snatcher.
Arte et Marte
Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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Reginald Barrington wrote:Prime minister's Harold Wilson in 1968 and then Edward Heath in 1971 are the guilty ones for stopping school milk Thatcher just happened to be education Secretary at the time so got labelled the milk snatcher.
Correct, and Labour closed more pits than the Tories.
Still, lets not let allow facts to cloud the issue.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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It's getting interesting in Kermitville with Le Pen almost up to Fillon's vote!
If push comes to shove will the left be holding their noses and voting for La Nouvelle Thatcher to keep the FN out?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 62,352
Didn't that happen a year or so back in the French regional elections when it looked like the FN might run away with things?
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,920
Keep going brian
you have them rattled lol
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Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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thatcher is the blame for the state of the country as it stands,i feel we are going backwards rather than forwards.
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Guest 745- Registered: 27 Mar 2012
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Miners never opposed worked out pits closing. But leaving good coal in the ground why importing from Australia was madness.
We should all remember just what thatcher gave us ,15% interest rate’s uk deindustrialization and mass unemployment ,and the social legacy that have blighted our industrial heartlands
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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These the same Betteshanger miner's who went on strike in the middle of WW2? Nice.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,053
Leaving coal in the ground makes sense to me - can't then hurt people trying to get it out.
(Not my real name.)
Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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I enjoy conversations about Margaret Thatcher, everybody is open minded and amenable to views from the opposing side.
She was as bad as the rest of the egotistical nutters we've had in my lifetime: stubborn, hypocritical and hubristic. The mining issue has been done to death, as a free marketeer I can't forgive the way she distorted the market with council house discounts.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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Maggie looked after her own, with a very well worked out plan
Only by getting over confident with a big majority did her time slowly run out and her party turn in on her
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Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Maggie looked after her own, with a very well worked out plan
Only by getting over confident with a big majority did her time slowly run out and her party turn in on her
Would you say the same applied to Blair?
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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The scandal of selling council homes without rebuilding any or few shows the problems govts of both political parties have carried out.
If anyone was bored enough to have read Blairs book he also made it clear he removed every possible thing that would stop him getting to number 10.
This included clause 4 of labour party
weakening unions
making sure all parties supported him
plus much much more.
Did he look after his own like Maggie did?
no he didnt
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Guest 1849- Registered: 12 Sep 2016
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"Did he look after his own like Maggie did?
no he didnt"
I'll need to press you here as somebody who represented Blair's Labour party for many years.
Please define Blair's "own" as opposed to Thatcher's "own".
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 8,072
I visited Grantham a year or so and I could see what made Maggie what she was.
Small minded, humourless and unsophisticated from a town which had fallen upon hard times in the arse end of nowhere just off the M1.
You can understand just how much she must have resented and secretly been in awe of her Oxford contemporaries from wealthy families and public schools heading off skiing while she returned to Alderman Robert's house where he had risen to the lofty height of mayor which he actually thought important.
No wonder she wanted to overturn the status quo, be they those who had not risen by merit or the two faced socialists intent on imposing their plans on the workers they despised as being too stupid to know what was good for them.
Her attitude was always 'if I can get so far from such a lowly background so can you if you stop whining and expecting a free ride on someone else's efforts.'
She was right.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
Dr. Hunter S Thompson
