Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Captain Haddock wrote:No chiice. Like King Lear, 3 daughters, only difference is he only had two ungrateful ones.....
Remind me how King Lear bows out. Isn't there a mad (Ted) Heath moment in there somewhere too?!
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Guest 2578- Registered: 21 Apr 2018
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Well my sister is 1 out of 6 siblings.my grandparents were from windrush and so was my dad.He came in 1962 aged 15 and mum came in 1954 aged 6.However dad finished secondary school.was recruited for the Royal Air force and joined in 1964.married mum in 1965.All of us were born in the UK and are British sister was born in germany 1972 while my Dad was stationed in Germany working.IShe was issued deportation papers as she was told that she was born out of the UK.Despite holding a full British birth certificate and confirmation from RAF of his service.He was in Crown Service.What an insult to my father's service to the Queen and Country
Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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JennyV wrote:Well my sister is 1 out of 6 siblings.my grandparents were from windrush and so was my dad.He came in 1962 aged 15 and mum came in 1954 aged 6.However dad finished secondary school.was recruited for the Royal Air force and joined in 1964.married mum in 1965.All of us were born in the UK and are British sister was born in germany 1972 while my Dad was stationed in Germany working.IShe was issued deportation papers as she was told that she was born out of the UK.Despite holding a full British birth certificate and confirmation from RAF of his service.He was in Crown Service.What an insult to my father's service to the Queen and Country
Beyond words.
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Guest 2578- Registered: 21 Apr 2018
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She was struck off as a nurse as the home office informed the nursing council she had no right to wok in the UK.
Captain Haddock
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So your sister, who was born in Germany well after the Empire Windrush generation had finished coming here, has never quite got around to regularising her position in the UK over the past four plus decades (as 99% plus of commonwealth citizens have done post 1971 Immigration Act)
And exactly whose fault was that?
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Guest 2578- Registered: 21 Apr 2018
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Well the regulations for the armed forces say any child born before 1982 to a crown servant on active duty is as born on British soil no matter where in the world they were born as long as it was a designated assignment by the government or crown.and anyone born in the UK before 1982 was British by birth .So am confused..u do not need to regulator your immigration status if you were born British.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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A lot of citizens from EU member states will have been watching this unfold with interest and doubtless EU negotiators will raise the subject with their UK counterparts.
Jan Higgins
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Captain Haddock wrote:So your sister, who was born in Germany well after the Empire Windrush generation had finished coming here, has never quite got around to regularising her position in the UK over the past four plus decades (as 99% plus of commonwealth citizens have done post 1971 Immigration Act)
And exactly whose fault was that?
Captain you are on a looser with this, all major parties come out of this very badly and yours seem to be the worst.
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Weird Granny Slater
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Captain Haddock wrote:So your sister, who was born in Germany well after the Empire Windrush generation had finished coming here, has never quite got around to regularising her position in the UK over the past four plus decades (as 99% plus of commonwealth citizens have done post 1971 Immigration Act)
And exactly whose fault was that?
Lear's a tragedy, but that's pure comedy, 'fantastically dressed with wild flowers.'
'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
John Buckley
- Registered: 6 Oct 2013
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This whole issue may well turn out to be the tip of the iceberg as to how inhumane and intransigent the Home Office/Immigration service really is. The eventual fall out from this sorry episode may even further damage this government’s credibility.
I’m sure that the general public are mainly unaware of the actual devastation caused to many individuals, children and families by the ineptitude of this so called “service”. I’m the first person to argue for the need to have in place a robust check on the validity of immigrants etc., but unfortunately, in my book anyway, it’s currently an unfair and unjust system and one that needs to be urgently reviewed.
The “Windrush” people affected were no doubt simply seen as easy targets to get the numbers down.
The protocol for this would have stemmed from the top, so should heads roll, in my opinion yes!
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Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
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I believe anyone who has not broken the law, lived, worked and contributed to this country for twenty years should automatically be given the right to stay regardless of their nationality.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Jan Higgins wrote:I believe anyone who has not broken the law, lived, worked and contributed to this country for twenty years should automatically be given the right to stay regardless of their nationality.
FUN FACT You can already apply for Indefinite Leave to Remain after 10 years of
legalresidence.
https://www.gov.uk/long-residence"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Perhaps the blessed Theresa, who has obviously recently gone mad, could declare a yearly 'Windrush Day' where we could all spend the day metaphorically beating our selves up and generally apologising for both everything in general and nothing in particular. I suspect it would be very popular amongst the young.
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"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
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This is what happens when public bodies are set targets - all common sense goes out of the window in pursuit of said target. We see it with NHS targets and generally, the three big operational departments of state - Home Office, DWP and HMRC.
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Brian Dixon
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when mother threresa and sister rudd hand in there resinaitions the better
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Might I suggest that any of you walk into your local pub and see if, in spite of all the furore, you can find anyone who actually give a toss about what is a bit of a clerical cock-up over the so called Windrush generation.
Most people want as many illegals,over-stayers and workers-in-breach removed as quickly as possible. So, fortunately, do most MPs, even the lefties.
"We are living in very strange times, and they are likely to get a lot stranger before we bottom out"
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Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Oh Captain, my Captain, you are valiantly defending an inglorious position which your own party is no longer defending. This thread is about the Windrush Generation. Please don't insult the forumites by talking about illegal immigrants within the confines of the Windrush debate.
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Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
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Quite.
BUT it is because both Labour and the Tories have been happy to play to the cheap seats when it suits them that we now have the legislation that's produced this disgrace, Your Grace.
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Guest 1881- Registered: 16 Oct 2016
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Weird Granny Slater wrote:Quite.
BUT it is because both Labour and the Tories have been happy to play to the cheap seats when it suits them that we now have the legislation that's produced this disgrace, Your Grace.
WGS, you are preaching to the choir (which, to be fair, is my job).
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