Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Keith this is for you and Roger .Do you recall the good old days of Transport Liasion Sub Committee ,where important transport issuies were discussed?Thanks to a certain person this committee was done away with .I understand some regret its passing as good discussions were held .Still one person wanted to hog it all and now things get done without consultation .We plebs know nothing .
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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surely another layer of bureaucracy being stripped away cannot be a bad thing?
it must mean that decision making will be speeded up.
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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quango gone more money being spent on what it sussposed to.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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brian
it was not a quango, it was a district council committee.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
- Registered: 23 Sep 2008
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mmm maybe but still costs money whitch ever way you look at it.
Sid Pollitt
I think this committee was where District, County and I think Town councillors came together and discussed local transport issues, sometimes with good effect. The worry is that more and more decisions are being made behind closed doors.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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this was a sub committe, this must mean that there was a main committee.
the more committees there are, the longer it takes to reach agreement, if at all.
Unregistered User
Perceptive and correct Howard.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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a problem i keep rattling on about paul.
we have 3 tiers of council representing us, plus various quangos.
once more committes are added, the more complicated it becomes.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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The Liaison sub-committee fed into the Joint Transportation Advisory Board.
Various bodies attended, including those representing diasbled groups and taxis, but one always steadfastly refused to attend, I can't remember which one it was, but the bus representatives were always there.
Roger
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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I think Sid has got it, yep SUE it beame clear it was to be used by the administration to abolish a gd c/ttee that worked well together all parties/agencies
As has been said now decisions are mae behind closed and even SUE who is part of the administration doesnt know wots going on, so we wont be.
Sad but true.
I saw the way things were going and that was part of my decision to get out of the council and boy was i glad i did, more so now looking at the way everything has gone, i chose thre right time.
Iv never agreed with the cabinet system, but sadly its wot we have.
Never mind SUE I know they won't silence you, i look forward to seeing you in action over the years
Guest 684- Registered: 26 Feb 2009
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Fewer committees. Hooray! Amen to that.
Unregistered User
Well Keith , the likes of you killed it off. The people who made the relevant decisions stopperd coming because they were fed up of you and the likes of your continual whinging.. Since it stopped bus services and buses have increased because investment has been made by my old chum Nigel, incidently supported by Sue. Relationships matter Keith and you demolished them. End of story. Enjoy your Weekend.
Watty
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,698
Where committees have a clear purpose and the delegated authority to make decisions they are good, where they are purely a talking shop feeding into other committees then they have no use or point.
Whilst your contention might be true Paul, ad hominem attacks diminish your argument.
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While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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sometimes committees get taken over by people that like the sound of their own voice.
i think that roger made a point, whether intended or not, about one committe feeding into another.
surely at district council level, only one committe is needed, after all each of the main parties elects their spokesperson on each issue, they would be best qualified to make any decisions.
Unregistered User
You have got it right Ross in your assessment.
Sorry if you feel I'm not free to have a go occasionally. I usually try to be non contentious , only factual ,but sometimes some of the self righteous comments here from people who had or have opportunities to influence but have failed or back off are pretty nauseating.
That will no doubt evoke comment.
Watty
Isn't that the point....?! Actually, I wouod prefer a degree of honesty from local reps - people get sick of the correct-speak and spin often heard. Plain speaking and honest response is refreshing.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
- Posts: 3,391
Paul
I will have a great weekend, but not through your comments!!! sad you resort to personal attacks, its realy does show you in a bad light, but there you have it, freeedom of speech i suppose.
You will find speaking to Roger and Sue and other tories(excluding your super nigel!! man that does everything)
that the public transport liaison c/ttee was getting teeth and going in the right direction and was working well until YOU withdrew it.
The buses/public transport in general as i have said before has improved because of the support of many people, Dover pride, the MP, councils to name a few.
your super nigel would not and could not have achived these things without these other peoples support.
Ross thankyou for pointng out paul W personal attack, I agree with you personal attacks that are untrue and unjust do little for paul's credibility.
But thats the beauty I suppose of freedom of speech!!!
Interesting to know that paulw felt the only way to silence me is to disband the c/ttee!! interesting one !!!
Wonder wot Sue finks now???
Ross Miller- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
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Paul, I do feel you are as free as anyone else to "have a go", I just feel that in this case it diminished the argument as to why this particular committee was disbanded; though perhaps the use of the word "sub" in its title might have given most of us a clue that it was more talking shop than decision maker.
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
Unregistered User
Again you are perceptive , Ross. When the rail companies and local bus company stop participating it should send a message. Incidently I did not disband it. I just like to give the facts.
Watty