Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,848
Meanwhile in the real world:-
'If approved, KCC Tories say the changes would lead to 48 bus contracts being withdrawn from summer 2022'.
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/cuts-to-bus-services-branded-as-bonkers-267527/"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 6,017
Now now captain you know half of those KCC members don’t live in the real world .Its staggering to think Some children will not have a bus service .I lived in a rural village and buses were essential .The workers bus everyday and a bus service to the main town on a Friday as it was Market day .
some of the elderly residents will have no social life at all .Whats the use of bus passes if you cannot use them .Dont mention Fast Track buses.Worst idea ever .Meanwhile the local bus services in our district will suffer.
Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,823
You see Sue i have been critical of both parties in the past and politics in general .
Yet here you are after moaning at my posts doing exactly the same .
Although your correct , it's a bit of double standards ?
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Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 2,979
At least with a 'fully-automated' system the driver won't get roasted.
The future's already with us - it's just bad.
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Guest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
- Posts: 541
Whilst the IBF might have gone away, the FastTrack is wrecking the area, let's hope it will be returned to just a road and landscaped properly at the sides when finished......
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,782
AndyPol wrote:Whilst the IBF might have gone away, the FastTrack is wrecking the area, let's hope it will be returned to just a road and landscaped properly at the sides when finished......
I just hope the Fast Track is worth the cost and gets well used and does not turn into yet another stupid white elephant idea that we have had foisted on to us .......... I will not hold my breathe as I do not believe in miracles.
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Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 17 Sep 2008
- Posts: 3,693
Of course it wont be worth the cost (£15m), I mean the DDC portfolio holder and officers dont even know if it makes it a quicker journey from Whitfield to the station or whether any of the residents of Whitfield will even use it. I suspect very few if any will as they will prefer to use their Chelsea Tractors etc.
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Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
- Posts: 425
My suspicion is that some Whitfield residents may use it to go as far as Tesco/leisure centre but no further. I think the route between business park and town will be little utilised - nothing to go into town for (shops????) and fewer and fewer people will be travelling by train.
Unless something changes soon the rail unions will ensure that train travel becomes even more expensive or the services will be much reduced.
All the money for this is linked to housing developments- let’s tie DDC in knots!!
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
I have a friend who is a succesful businessman and recently made a fair amount of money when he sold his software company to an American firm. He bought one the new builds in Whitfield. I can no more imagine him using the Fast Track service than I can see him wanting to exhibit himself on Love Island. But you never know, I might be proved wrong!
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,823
Another 15m down the drain .
Dover deserves better
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Dover Pilot- Registered: 28 Jul 2018
- Posts: 342
I wish they would use the money to sort out our existing local bus services which are still having services cancelled regularly. Just finding alternative transport to get children to school is proving a nightmare for many Dover parents.
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Arthur- Registered: 18 Nov 2020
- Posts: 425
Dover Pilot wrote:I wish they would use the money to sort out our existing local bus services which are still having services cancelled regularly. Just finding alternative transport to get children to school is proving a nightmare for many Dover parents.
Having attended numerous meetings regarding Fastrack I can confirm that the above has been raised more than once. The answer is always the same…….the funding is only available for this project and if it were not to proceed the money would no longer be made available. As I’ve said previously it is linked to the housing developments at Whitfield and Connaught Barracks.
Sadly no one listens. The public consultation was held during COVID restrictions and there were few responses- certainly in my opinion not enough to give it the green light. The consultation also only addressed questions related to the frequency of service and number/locations of bus stops. It DIDN’T ask….do residents want or need this service!
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Guest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
- Posts: 541
They are digging a huge stepped hole in the ground where the pedestrian route will be crossing , I presume for a pollution drainage ditch (I'm not a qualified engineer but it looks like the same thing by Guston bridge) and I hope is going to be protecting the area around there?
On the plus side, I suppose if they are electrically operated buses, there won't be much pollution
Gary39- Registered: 7 Jul 2017
- Posts: 446
Shame they cannot extend the route to Aycliffe. No need to built any more infrastructure..
We have the A20 or they could go over military hill and link the Western Heights community.
Or it is because we are not part of Whitfield :)
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Guest 3925- Registered: 28 Nov 2020
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Gary39 wrote:Shame they cannot extend the route to Aycliffe. No need to built any more infrastructure..
We have the A20 or they could go over military hill and link the Western Heights community.
Or it is because we are not part of Whitfield :)
Don't forget Gary, this is to serve Whitfield, not Dover! Your idea is sound though as I bet the buses would be busier from your neck of the woods into the town than they will be from the fabled (non-existent yet) houses in Whitfield?
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,848
Meanwhile here's 38 bus routes about to be closed!
(Including 61/61A Stagecoach from Aycliffe to Whitfield; withdrawal of three Monday to Saturday evening journeys).
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/kent/news/the-38-bus-routes-being-axed-by-kcc-270825/Ross Miller likes this
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Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,003
I wasn't aware that there were any 61 evening services - what have I been missing!
(Not my real name.)
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,848
Button wrote:I wasn't aware that there were any 61 evening services - what have I been missing!
And how would you know?
I went to C'bury by 'bus yesterday and tried to call in the 'travel center' at the 'bus station to get a timetable for my return.
It's now permanently closed and one of the drivers told me that 'they're no longer printing timetables as they change them so often' but it's all available 'on line'.
Fortunately I have a smart 'phone and Stagecoach App.
Unfortunately data coverage in Canterbury is abysmal.
Ended up using M&S free wi-fi.
Arthur C Clarke said “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”.
Tommy Cooper must have designed Canterbury's technology.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,848
Captain Haddock wrote:
Arthur C Clarke said “Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”.
e.g. In middle of WhatsApp converation, complete with pictures, with daughter who in on Lufthansa flight from Frankfurt to Bogota and is right now over Madrid!
Couldn't do that in Canterbury bus station ........................
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
- Posts: 23,823
Sue
Looks like we are on the same side again .
£15m for a project that probably won't be used and will do little to help the buses in town and around the area .
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