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30 December 2008
12:2311674I'm with you Chris . It's not what you on see on the ground that drives this despicable conflict.
If Israel does not show strength & absolute resolve it will soon be gone.
Don't always condone its tactics but salute its self preservation instinct.
Watty
30 December 2008
16:5911694We agree Mr Watkins. Sadly, oppression is in all directions and we need to see the bigger picture.
Brian Dixon
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30 December 2008
21:0211721sounds a bit like pick on the arabs time again,we leave them alone and they will leave us alone.
31 December 2008
08:0011736Yeah, right!! And that isn't anti-Arab, just a general comment on any group participating in terrorism.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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31 December 2008
08:0511737maybe but arnt they all tared with the same brush,there is a anti arab sentimeant going around at the moument.
31 December 2008
10:1711744There's and anti-arab. an anti-semitic, anti-catholic, anti-islam, anti-black, anti-white, anti-gay, anti-het, anti choice, anti-pro-choice, anti everything somewhere or another. One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter, one mans suicide bomber is another mans martyr, another mans murderer. Hypocrisy and hatred, fear and violence will never go away, all we can do is create strategies for dealing with them, and for protecting the vulnerable - that's us, by the way! - and try to create more and better ways to encourage harmony. Damage limitation is, at bottom, the best we can hope for. That's Life.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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31 December 2008
10:5011745ok bern it only takes israel and america to reconize hamass then things will calm down in that quater and things will calm down.i dont condon terrism by the way but if thats what the arabs/mouslims see as a way of doing things so be it.its taken 40 years to sort out the irish problem and its about time that america and israel put there stuborn pride to one side and start talking to bring permanent peace to that area.
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31 December 2008
18:3511763Brian.
IF I lived next door to you and for some reason you kept throwing bricks into my garden, How long do you think it would be before you got them all back again with extras?
Think outside the box mate.
Ian...
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
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31 December 2008
18:5011764If only it were that simple Brian. These days everyone plays the religious card. When searching for Islamic terrorists the security forces are accused of targetting the Muslim community, just as they were accused of targetting Catholics while hunting IRA. If anything is said against Isrealli political and military measures accusations of anti-semetism fly. Hamass is made up of political and extremist Islamic factions making it difficult to recognise one part and not the other. And it is not only the Islamic sides that are divided amongst themselves, the capital of the Gaza strip is Bethlehem where the church of the Sepulchar is so divided amongst Christian sects they have a ladder sitting there for over a hundred years because no-one can agree on who should move it and the keys have had to be held by a muslim family for generations as none of the Christian groups can be trusted with them. You are looking at an area of the world where almost every rock is sacred to some sect or other so any agreement would always leave at least one group opposed and claiming persecution.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
31 December 2008
19:2611769Absolutely - and much as I hated it and didn't appreciate the bigger picture at the time, I have come to understand, up to a point, why I and my four very young kids were hauled out of the car at the ferry ports on the way to and from Ireland, and I was searched (I'll spare you the details!!!) and harrassed. It wasn't right, and a large part of it was actually the CopperKnobs getting a bit of a jolly, but I understand the principle now, and the underpinning pressure. And that is what the "freedom fighters" achieve for the people they will claim to represent - oppression, inverse terrorism, and hatred. Waytogo fellas.
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31 December 2008
22:0911780I sympathise Bern. I once had to watch customs officers, complete with dogs, spend over four hours checking out the car two of us (both from Kent) were travelling in. Even though all we had with us were two overnight bags in the car and two large inflatable tyres in the boot (we had taken them to Holland for repair as it was quicker and cheaper than other methods) they still spent all that time on it. Their reason was that we worked for an Irish company and the car was registered in Dublin.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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1 January 2009
10:3311823it sounds like you lot have got a bad case of paranoia,being paranoid is not a bad thing if you you are american,but you are british citrzens and should be leval headed at all times.religion should not become involved in politics,with talks based on a face to face merit.ian i am not the sort who would throw bricks into your garden would lose to much profit.
1 January 2009
14:0811849Not sure what your point is, there.........is it paranoid to recognise violence and manipulation?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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1 January 2009
14:4211861maybe brian is planning an attack on ian's house?
1 January 2009
15:3711864If not bricks, what......?!
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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1 January 2009
16:2911870bern,being paranoid breeds violence and terrisiom,you think that everyones out to get you by foul means or fair.george w bush is a fine example after 9/11 and taking us into iraq telling us that they wmd etc and there neighbers being axis of evil,there fore you get paranoid about everything. howard i would think of attacking ians house with bricks or any thing else.so i hope this clears this little matter up.
1 January 2009
16:3711871well, no, actually.........
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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1 January 2009
16:5811874bern are you having a blonde moment?.if so cheak paranoid out in a dictornary.
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1 January 2009
17:4711878Has anyone broken Brians enigma code yet?
I am lost...but thats not unusual..
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
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1 January 2009
18:3211881Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
