Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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10 September 2009
18:1128725Anybody seen this... quote:
"FLOOD risks at the mid-town site earmarked for the new Dover hospital have forced health chiefs to consider other areas for the £20 million health facility.
Despite signing a contract with maintenance and building group Interserve in January contracting the firm to start the build this Autumn it has now been revealed that health chiefs now acknowledge the hospital could have to be built on an alternative site.
The Maison Dieu plot was agreed for the state-of-the-art, 60,000 square foot, three-storey clinic in September 2008 but Hospital for Dover campaigner Reg Hansell quickly pointed out the flood risk and the group even wrote to then-Secretary of State for Health, Alan Johnson, outlining the problems.
Now the NHS Eastern and Coastal Kent Primary Care Trust has admitted that the decision must be reviewed."
Full story....
http://www.thisiskent.co.uk/dover/Flood-risk-forces-health-bosses-look-new-sites-Dover-hospital/article-1328521-detail/article.html
Thats the NHS for you - utterly hopeless....
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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10 September 2009
19:0128729common knoledge barryw,but as useall the big wigs turn a deaf ear because they no better than us minions.
10 September 2009
20:2628739Sad but true - managers not managing properly again. Being kicked upstairs because of poor performance must be a bane. (Not everyone, before someone jumps on me!!! But there are a significant number who float upwards, like some other waste products, in the system because no-one is brave enough, or professional enough, to manage them properly.)
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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10 September 2009
21:3428744should be interesting with the new government.
they have now changed their pledge about increasing spending on the nhs.
i do not have a problem with that, the question is , "where will the "non increases" be focused?
Terry Nunn
- Location: London Road, Dover
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
- Posts: 4,303
10 September 2009
21:3528745Received a letter today with my next eye appointment for September next year. It's at the "Buckland Outpatients" at the Kent and Canterbury.
Another clinic gone then!
Terry
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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10 September 2009
21:4228747I hear what you are all saying and I should have said on the last thread about this.....flood risk? WHAT flood risk.
Has that part of the town ever flooded before?
If so, When?
Is the Dour to become a raging torrent and we all need life jackets?
Is the sea going to rise 20 feet in the next 50 years?
Did I miss something or has someone blown this all out if preportion?
Sorry for being iggarant.
Ian...
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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11 September 2009
10:2828770ian,every time theres a heavy downpour of the wet stuff,the drains cant cope and the river at riverside or what ever its called along with the pencester garden stretch breaks its banks.ask chris priecious for more details as his mother gets wet feet every time,she lives across from the health center.
Guest 668- Registered: 13 Apr 2008
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11 September 2009
10:3628771Whitfields on a hill, surely thats a safer option wink wink! Does this mean the old barracks site will be used?!
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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11 September 2009
11:3928776i have a sinking feeling here(no pun intended), sounds like we will have a few consultancies taking place.
then eventually, the decision will be reached, that due to cutbacks - no hospital.
Guest 645- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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11 September 2009
12:1828782Build the bloody thing on stilts and use the lower ground floor for Ambulance and Staff Car Park and deliveries.Flood and Parking problems solved in one easy swoop.... using wide Elevators or Escalators to take patients or the bedridden up to the wards..simple now for my consultancy fee's....
Marek
I think therefore I am (not a Tory supporter)
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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11 September 2009
12:4328783Is it another excuse not to build it
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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11 September 2009
14:0528797Well if it's a case of drainage then I can't see what the problem is with it being so close to the harbour, all it needs is updating and improving.
Or put the Dour in a concrete tube at that end and build over it, wham bam no more flooding.
Ooooops sorry, I would'nt want to tread on any consultants toes, they may have more money to make out of this project yet.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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14 September 2009
07:3428908My understanding about this is that the flood-plain and flood-risks are surmountable and the problems can be engineered out, it just depends on the costs involved.
If the hospital can't be built there, then it will also mean that the mid-town development plans won't go ahead either, so there's a lot riding on this - Dover's future.
Roger
Guest 644- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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15 September 2009
19:4728966I have no interest in the politics of all this, but there is a genuine flood risk in the area. Here is proof.
This is a photo I took of Dover College grounds in June 07 during an evening of exceptionally heavy rainfall. The grounds were under a foot of water and I remember wading over knee high in the area around the Bowling Green. The area of the proposed hospital was inundated.
Freak weather maybe, but it will happen again. We just don't know when.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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15 September 2009
22:1328978maybe the authorities are getting wet feet over the idea phil?
cannot think why, for the life of me.
16 September 2009
06:0228979Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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16 September 2009
07:3228983The Planners were there as well as the Engineers Bern and a hydro study/survey has just been completed, but as far as I am aware, not yet put out to the general public.
It is being studied to determine exactly what needs doing, how to do it and the cost of doing it.
If the hospital doesn't go there, then there'll be no mid-town development either, so there's a lot riding on this.
Roger
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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16 September 2009
14:4028992roger,dosent that cost money,probaly at tax payers expence.
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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16 September 2009
17:0428997Of course it does Brian - every penny DDC spend is our money, but your point is ?
Roger
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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16 September 2009
19:1729014why do the study in the first place when we all know what the answer is.it floods what more do these people want to know.
