Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I thought this was being demolished for flats ??
Appears it is re-opening as Club Karma in July......
Been nice knowing you :)
Please let it not be so. Please demolish it if given the chance - or revive the Merritime Hall!
What a hateful dump the former NuAge/Whatever is.
DT1- Location: Dover
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Now much as I hated Nu-Age, I do have have rose tinted memories of the place. How this is possible when the place was such an over-priced dump I'm not sure. Perhaps it just represents a time and place in formative years!
I will say that I have seen some images new interiors today and purely from a design point of view, both myself and wife were really impressed. This is not to say that because someone has spent money the customers will change. However I do feel that if someone is prepared to fit out a club to this standard (which has never been done in the history of the place) then perhaps they are wanting to attract a new type of customer. The fact that all of the dance areas (that used to be filled with sweaty, amphetamine fueled ravers, dancing to monotonus drum and bass tunes) have been replaced with lounge/chill out areas. This leads me to think (I hope) that this will be some a little different, safe, with a strict code of conduct.
Fingers crossed!
DT1- Location: Dover
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Just to add, I don't think any work has been done yet. But as said if it is fitted out to the standard shown, it could be a success.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the residents of adrian street will be gutted with the news.
the things that they had to put up with.
one resident i know, compiled a dossier of events that happened in his front garden in the early hours of saturday and sunday.
fornication, urination, defecation were just some of the activities.
quite rightly, it lost it's licence.
who is it that has given permission for it to be re-opened?
i bet that they do not live anywhere near it.
Guest 651- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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Am I right in thinking I saw a new sign on the building the other day - a sign of it opening ?
Been nice knowing you :)
DT1- Location: Dover
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Following the link from Mum of Seven, it seems they have been promoting the place recently. Although reading the comments it seems locals do not want a swish new club, just what was there before!
Guest 675- Registered: 30 Jun 2008
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It does seem odd that the same people as are in favour of a big telly in the street, seeing it as much needed regeneration, are down on Dover actually having a night club that might provided something for visitors to do in the evenings. Obviously I am not talking about those that want to stand around Market Square with a can of beer watching football but rather those who may wish to part with some cash in our town.
Nu Age was very clearly allowed to go in the wrong direction and sadly, but justifiably earned its nick-name of Under Age. However the fact that it was always packed did prove two things. One, that the under eighteens are crying out for somewhere to go in the evenings and have the money to do so. Secondly that the need for a night club is strong enough for those legally allowed to drink were prepared to brave the 'under-age' element in order to visit one.
Dover is crying out for a night life and if somebody is prepared to spend the money refitting this club premises we can hope that will also make sure that it properly managed. This is not Nu-Age, it is a new venture, something this town needs so let us, at the very least, give it a fair chance. It may be shocking to realise but not everyone wants to watch television in the evenings.
Politics, it seems to me, for years, or all too long, has been concerned with right or left instead of right or wrong.
Richard Armour
Ross Miller
- Location: London Road, Dover
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Chris
Neither the TV or a new night club are my thing, but I am in favour of both.
My only caveat to this is that there is adequate policing not only in the vicinity of these attractions but also through the town and up London Road, Folkestone Road etc. so that residents are not unduly disturbed post shut down/kicking out time.
"Dream as if you'll live forever. Live as if you'll die today." - James Dean
"Being deeply loved by someone gives you strength,
While loving someone deeply gives you courage" - Laozi
DT1- Location: Dover
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Chris, who are these people who are pro-screen and anti-nightclub?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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there is no comparison between market square and adrian street.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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those in favour ALL DISTRICT CLLRS of all parties except
seu nicholas and roger frayne
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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That's not true Keith - On the Planning Committee, ALL Labour Councillors voted AGAINST it and ALL Conservative Councillors voted for it.
I will add that I wasn't "told" to vote for it; I did some research, spoke to a number of people, including businesses down at the Market Square area, before making up my (own) mind.
Roger
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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I agree with Chris this town is crying out for night life .Every weekend our young people have to leave Dover either for Bowling ,Cinema or a Night Club
Back to the screen keep digging Keith and you will unravel the truth .
Look at the names of those who were on the committee that night .
DT1- Location: Dover
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The town does need nightlife but lets be very clear what we are talking about and for who.
The comments on the 'Club Karma' facebook group are from people that used to use Nu-age. The general feed back is positve about a new club but points out that the service that it provided met the need: Drinking, dancing and fornication. This is the reason it was never 'done-up' because people simply didn't care. A huge number of the people who would like a new club in Dover (and the ones who will spend their money and keep the place open) will want these needs met before wanting a more. VIP lounges are all very good but are not cost effective, especially in such a small club. The club must be representative of the spending habits of those using it.
Flash, stylish clubs do have a place and I wish this could be one, but you can't be one at the same time a a sweaty dance spot. I'm sure (and hope) the new owners have looked at all of this and got the balance right!
As for offering this transistional group of young people (around 16)something to do, bowling alleys and Cinemas do not stop them trying to (and in most cases succeeding) in getting into pubs and night clubs. I was 16 when I first went into Images, and my group saw this as a better use of a saturday night than standing in Pencester drinking cheap cider. Purely because it was so expensive compared to our 'income' we had to drink responsibly and act responsibly through fear of not getting thrown out. Let me make myself clear, this is not 'right' but is a struggle that has, and always will go on between 16 year olds and the system!
You realise when taking 16 year olds bowling that they lose interest half way through the second game and start playing on the arcade machines. You go to Margate or Ashford and you see groups of teens around the arcade areas, the alleys being used by families and large numbers of pensioners(both groups that can drive!). The same can be said for the ice rink at gillingham, next time you go have a good look!
Brian Dixon
- Location: Dover
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just wandering if a police pro active team will be put in place on opening night/s.with patrols up and down the high street etc.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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the reason it was closed on police advice was that the residents of adrian street were treated to its customers fornicating, urinating and defecating in their front garden between the hours of midnight and 4 am.
a dossier was produced with the necessary evidence, showing photos of syringes, used condoms and richard the thirds adorning the quiet residential street.
i somehow feel that the screen(which finishes at 11 pm) will not engender as much local colour.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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Roger
i was talking about full council
it wasn't a party political fing
still you make it into one
up to you
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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Keith - you know as well as I do, that it is the Planning Committee who pass or reject planning applications - not full Council.
Full Council voted on it subject to planning permission being granted; I haven't made it a party political thing - how did you come to that conclusion ?
I just stated the decision of the committee and it was that all the Labour members voted against it (coincidence ?) and the Conservatives voted for it - I can't speak for how the other Conservatives came to their conclusion, hopefully the same way as I did - independant of politics.
Roger