Weird Granny Slater
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,002
'Talent Acquisition Adviser'?
'I believe you'd make a very good unicyclist, Zainab.'
'Have you considered watercolours, Mr Hassan?'
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'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,801
I thought the plan was to reduce Civil Servants but maybe I got it round the wrong way, I assume these are CS jobs rather than some other money wasting institution.
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Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,935
I believe 8 of the 11 'jobs' are in the 'charity' sector.
(Migrant Helpline Data for financial year ending 31 March 2021 Total income: £22,395,000
Total income includes £20,464,000 from 4 government contract(s) and £932,000 from 2 government grant(s)
I can think of no other country in the world where illegal immigrants are funded to try to fight legislation passed to control illegal immigrants by the same government! )
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Dover Pilot- Registered: 28 Jul 2018
- Posts: 345
I find it fascinating that many people actually think this government want to reduce immigration. Behind the smokescreen every agency in the UK, supported by the French is working flat out to get people into this country. The truth is the UK want to overtake Germany as the biggest European population and we should reach that goal by about 2050.
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Neil Moors- Registered: 3 Feb 2016
- Posts: 1,295
The Rwanda thing is a farce. There's nothing in it. We've paid a fortune as a stunt to provoke political debate. Government is desperately hoping that the Courts rule it out so that they can say "Oh well, we tried. It's the Court's fault".
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ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
We can't fill the vacancies we currently have. The economy is beginning to tank (0.1% shrinkage in March) and inflation topping 9%. The highest level in the G7 and almost certain to rise higher. We're frightened to raise interest rates because our debt to GDP ratio is beginning to border on the unmanageable.
Anyone remember those PPE deals doled out to cronies or £37bn spaffed on so called test and trace?
Who can we blame it on next?
Weird Granny Slater- Location: Dover
- Registered: 7 Jun 2017
- Posts: 3,002
Dover Pilot wrote:I find it fascinating that many people actually think this government want to reduce immigration...
Indeed. But this mass hypnosis is true with most of its policies. The name 'Conservative' functions as a brand identifier and draws on the loyalty of many who haven't noticed that the ingredients changed during the Blair years. Hardly any policy is now conservative, since the Conservatives are now a progressive Left party, virtually indistinguishable from New Labour, the LDs, the Greens and the SNP.
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'Pass the cow dung, my dropsy's killing me' - Heraclitus
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,935
ray hutstone wrote:We can't fill the vacancies we currently have.
Not that old argument please Ray!
It's a bit like the 'We need more immigrants since we have an aging population so 'obviously' we need more 'workers' paying taxes to pay for their health care and pensions'.
Unfortunately the newly imported workers eventually become an aging population whereupon 'obviously etc.
The sensible answer is more automation with fewer people wasting their (and my) time by being behind check-outs in supermarkets, counters in banks and stuff like picking crops or working in Amazon (warehouses!) fulfillment centres I would suggest.
The future is with us - it's just badly distributed .........................
Fortunately Dover is ahead of the game with such as the FastTrack bus route ................
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
ray hutstone- Registered: 1 Apr 2018
- Posts: 2,158
The economy shrinking and inflation rising is an old argument? You'll no doubt be out in the Kentish fields this summer picking soft fruit and vegetables!
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,935
Nope, and nor will I code for pizza!
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Button
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,028
Actually, the Rwanda plan is working. Yes, yes it is! According to the front page of today's Mail on Sunday, up to 10 migrants have asked to be returned home, rather than have their claim processed while they're in Rwanda.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-61538941. Interesting statistic; sort of reminds me of those TV ads for anti-aging cream or the like: '34 out of 105 testers agree it works'.
(Not my real name.)
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,801
Captain Haddock wrote:Not that old argument please Ray!
It's a bit like the 'We need more immigrants since we have an aging population so 'obviously' we need more 'workers' paying taxes to pay for their health care and pensions'.
Unfortunately the newly imported workers eventually become an aging population whereupon 'obviously etc.
The sensible answer is more automation with fewer people wasting their (and my) time by being behind check-outs in supermarkets, counters in banks and stuff like picking crops or working in Amazon (warehouses!) fulfillment centres I would suggest.
The future is with us - it's just badly distributed .........................
Fortunately Dover is ahead of the game with such as the FastTrack bus route ................
I would hate to see check-out staff disappear being disabled they help pack my shopping and the good ones give many others someone to actually chat to, not something a robot can do.
The immigrant might end up as a doctor, nurse, carer or any of the other jobs where real people are needed. Their taxes will help for when they reach retirement the same as our years of taxes help us now we are old.
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,935
Jan Higgins wrote: Their taxes will help for when they reach retirement the same as our years of taxes help us now we are old.
Sorry to break it to you Jan but pensions do not work like that. They are a Ponzi scheme which only pay out to those who are at the top (pensioners) as long as even more at the bottom (tax payers) keep coughing up.
There is no 'Sovereign Wealth Fund' that your contributions have been paid in to. Nor have they been invested in such as armaments, gambling, oil firms or tobacco where they might have made an excellent return.
Every single penny that you have 'paid in' has already been spent by the government.
Fortunately
most pensioners have never had it so good with triple locks on national pension and index linked final salary pensions the likes of which my children will never see + more savings than they have ever had since they haven't been spending on eating out and foreign holidays over the past two years - which is why UK taxes have hit their highest level in 70 years & the average total lifetime tax bill will rocket past £1.1 million.!
Back on topic a small warning (I do not wish to give these people publicity).
Various 'social media' are calling 'patriots' to a mass rally inn Dover on 4 June to 'stand up against illegal immigration'.
Here we go again ..................
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Jan Higgins- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
- Posts: 13,801
Sorry to break it to you Captain but I did know that but as I still have to pay tax I believe some of my tax money might actually go towards some pensioner less fortunate than myself as well as all the wastrels out there.
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Reginald Barrington
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 17 Dec 2014
- Posts: 3,229
Your taxes are absorbed in their entirety by paying your own pension Jan, then supplemented to make up the difference.
Arte et Marte
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,935
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,935
"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
Button- Location: Dover
- Registered: 22 Jul 2016
- Posts: 3,028
Clandestine?!!
(Not my real name.)
Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,935
Yup. H.O. definition covering illegal immigrants (includes lorry drops etc).
Although as everybody knows, according to Guardian letters and such as Care4Calais, asylum seekers 'obviously' can't be illegal immigrants! (Ha, bloody ha)
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
- Registered: 8 Oct 2012
- Posts: 7,935
Extraordinary! THIS from the Home Office - while the MoD release daily figures on how many dinghies have come ashore - do they really think we can't add up?
https://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/home-office-accused-of-cover-up-over-dumped-dinghies-267720/"Shall we go, you and I, while we can? Through the transitive nightfall of diamonds"
