Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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23 August 2009
06:3627794Roger
Don't go with any of them either
Guest 653- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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23 August 2009
07:1127803So how do you think these evil sadistic people should be punished ? making them fit members of society is a non-starter: prison is a non-deterrent, if they've been put down, they can't do it again.
We spoke about the Lockerbie bomber and compassion, why is there no compassion for the victims (of all crimes of violence) and their families.
Roger
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23 August 2009
07:1627804ROGER
Why is it a non starter? I cannot be convinced of the death penalty if you get it wrong, and we have seen after appeals/re trials people found not guilty.
The legal system needs a review,
Is the smaller crimes needing a prison sentence in every case? I think not, get them to put something back into society, cleaning streets, doing painting jobs etc
etc, free up prison space.
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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23 August 2009
07:3727817The legal system is riddled with errors and bad convictions..as I mentioned earlier for example in numerous Irish cases...but even more recently we have seen at least two (and maybe more) so called murderers released after long prison terms, who have been realised to be innocent, following recent developments/ advancements in DNA.
Not only would we have taken away their freedom but we would have taken away their lives as well.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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23 August 2009
07:4127819PAULB
We think so alike on this issue
23 August 2009
08:5627830I am not clear why life in prison is seen as a soft option. It's grim, endless and a life less lived. If somone is so dangerous that they cannot be allowed out (and I include paedophiles in this - I have worked as a professional with some in a previous life witin a secure setting and I am convinced that there is no, or little, capacity for change and that the risk of them living outside of prison is not a risk, on balance, worth taking for our children) then we should most definitely keep them incarcerated forever. Takin g a life is murder, whoever takes it, so the option - which is often less appealing remember - of life without hope of freedom seems a fitting and real punishment to me.
Brian Dixon
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23 August 2009
09:0027831bern,if you want grim try the goolags in siberria or anywhere above the artic circle.
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23 August 2009
19:3227865BRIAN
Ok but BERN is right,
Guest 658- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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23 August 2009
22:0927872Capital punishment is a no no due as a mistake cannot be rectified, but life must mean life. Anyone sentenced to life must only leave prison when life is extinct end of.
beer the food of the gods
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24 August 2009
07:0727889GUZZLER YEAP IM WITH YOU ON THIS ONE
Guest 640- Registered: 21 Apr 2007
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24 August 2009
08:2027901The term 'Life Sentance' is just a token term as almost nobody serves life up until the very bitter end..the Moors murderers have though as i recall, Brady still inside, Hindley died there, but so many are out on the streets or queing beside you in the supermarket!
The point Im making is that its common practice to let 'lifers' out early. In extreme cases where the public wont wear it, it may not happen. These non released few is often as a result of lilly livered politicians worried about their careers more than anything else. You saw this kind of dithering over Ronnie Biggs recently. First no...then yes, but it was right to let Ronnie Biggs out.
The Scottish government clearly underestimated the amount of feeling there is on the Megahi situation as the furore is enormous.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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24 August 2009
08:3127902PAULB
A bit of a subject we can disagree on lol'
Nope biggs or this guy shouldn't have been let out
Think the Scottish parlianment meeting today will be dragged through the coals on this one.
24 August 2009
09:2627907People often harp on about adding new laws and beefing up the legal system - actually, there are plenty of laws and strength in the system, it is how it is applied that often sucks, with judges failing to interpret effectively, social workers and psychiatrists (bless!) ensuring a job for themselves by faffing about "assessing" the dangerous to the point of release, and the public taking all that as an opportunity to blurb on about the death penalty again. What it really does need is a means of joining it all up, with fairness, parity and justice. The structure is there, it needs a bit of a tidy up, is all.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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24 August 2009
19:0027926BERN
Im joining your fan club lol your right again
24 August 2009
21:2727932Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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24 August 2009
22:0927933Bern. you have a knack of getting it right all of the time.
In my view anyway.
3 words you got right there. bless. faffing. assessing.
Get rid of those 3 and we may get somwhere.
I still love you babe.
Ian...
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
25 August 2009
06:5627940Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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25 August 2009
07:1327943Join the BERN fab club here!!! lol
