Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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15 October 2009
17:4830553No, Brian, we can see exactly what staying in means to the UK and I want nothing to do with it.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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15 October 2009
18:1130556Let`s have a third war in Europe, but this time, join the Germans. (No atrocities though).
Tell them that I came, and no one answered.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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15 October 2009
18:1330558so is there a cost to with draw?
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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15 October 2009
19:0430573keith
it is not like a sky subscription, anyone can leave without any recourse to dosh.
Brian Dixon
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16 October 2009
19:0130673barryw,so many scare stories about the eu,its getting diffecult to weed out the truth.the eurosceptics are saying one thing the pro eouropeans say the oppisit.all this = confusion,so if some one in power ie,goverment,an eu rep high ranking spoke honestly with words every one can understand then and only then we will know what its all about,which in turn will help joe public and this means you as well barry will help make our minds up one way or the other.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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16 October 2009
19:2330678The history of the EEC/EC/EU shows that we have been lied to time and time again, combined with the clear distaste the EU has for democray that is all we need to know, better off out. That organisation is all about a Euro-elite gaining power for themselves.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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16 October 2009
19:3430684i have to say that i think this time barry is absolutely spot on.
i have read everything i could on the subject, watched all television debates, never have i found a practical benefit to the UK.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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16 October 2009
19:4830688barry/howard of course there benifits for staying in europe.lots of.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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16 October 2009
19:5630690ok brian, just give one to start with and we can take the debate from there.
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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16 October 2009
19:5930691I never did agree with it and never will, I think this is the feeling of the public in general.
It's nice to agree to something and then jump on the gravy train, I think it's time it all stopped.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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16 October 2009
20:0430693better road repairs co-ordanated with utilaty companys,this means that say the local water company wants to lay new pipes they have do it while the road is dug up the same goes for all companys.better spread of council tax money for the up keep of the local area.have seen this in practice and it works better than our out dated system.and thats just for starters.
16 October 2009
20:2630699With the greatest possible rspect - codswallop!!!!!
Guest 672- Registered: 3 Jun 2008
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16 October 2009
20:3730702HE HE Go girl. I like you.
Where did you get that claptrap Brian?
It may work over there but it dont over here. get down off of cloud nine mate and realise you live in England. The left hand does'nt know what the right hand is doing and we have people not knowing how to live without expenses, soon to become destitute.
grass grows by the inches but dies by the feet.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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17 October 2009
14:1930755ian/bern have seen it first hand over there.and they are much more codanated than we are,and have you ever seen potholes in newly laid tarmac over there? doubt it if you have.
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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17 October 2009
19:2830788howard,old chap another one for you from the eu,free bus/train rides from the age of 55.and there is us with just a free bus pass off peak at 60.
17 October 2009
19:5130790There is more to life......and Ireland is in the EU and there are more potholes than people over there.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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17 October 2009
19:5930792brian
as far as i can see there is no eu directive on concessionary fares.
are you saying that all 27 member states other than us stretch to free fares for the over 55's?
Brian Dixon- Location: Dover
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18 October 2009
10:4330840yes howard free travel for the over 55s and disalbled.
bern,cant speak for ireland never been there.
Guest 655- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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18 October 2009
11:1030844There are things that must be left to nation states to decide there is absolutely no reason for the EU to have directives on such as free travel.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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18 October 2009
12:5730863i find it difficult to believe that the EU would have any say on such a thing.
individual countries would be financing it.