Keith Sansum1
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Agree Jan
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Looks like labour empty promises
Then they disappear
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:Looks like labour empty promises
Then they disappear
WTF has this got to do with Labour. You thick or what? proper dark ages stuff....next you'll be asking if people are catholic
Captain Haddock
- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Two new shops just opened in Deal. Just saying.
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Bob Whysman
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DFL wrote:WTF has this got to do with Labour. You thick or what? proper dark ages stuff....next you'll be asking if people are catholic
Wait for the question before you answer DFL. No comment will be insufficient I guess!
P.S. Glad to see that you are containing your anger.........
https://metro.co.uk/2020/08/24/full-stops-intimidate-young-people-seem-angry-say-linguists-13170009/
Do nothing and nothing happens.
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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DFL
The reason I mention labour
(Bob frost was there )
Was that labour cllrs at the time were going to change the world on town shops .
They have not been seen since
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Keith Sansum1 wrote:DFL
The reason I mention labour
(Bob frost was there )
Was that labour cllrs at the time were going to change the world on town shops .
They have not been seen since
Based on the calbre of shops in the town it seems to me that there is not enough money in the town to attract more retailers, also, Dover is a very small town in terms of population and an aging one at that, so less economically active.
That has nothing to do with politics, and nothing that a political party can change.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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I do agree with you ..but then labour shouldn't have promised the world
Thus turning into a political football
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Bob Frost was there! Yup faced with a fait accompli of St James. TOO much investment. TOO many people, both councillors and locals having drunk the Kool-Aid.
As ever the local Dover excuse, quote, 'we didn't actually lose money on it'!
(See every other DDC grande project and 'creative' accounting)
Whilst on t'council I spent a lot of time at LGA conferences (never claimed expenses) talking to major players in retail and other councils, many pleasently suprised if retailers could pay utility bills never mind about business rates.
That was pre-Corvid, after which 'all bets are off'.
Having travelled much of the country (greetings from just below Folly Bridge Oxford - just gotta see the Alfred Jewel in the Ashmolean again) I STILL think Dover has more potential than most places I have visited.
It would not be difficult to do something with the town, meanwhile you/we have the farce of the Maison Dieu cycle route (other people's money, gotta spend it), the rapid bus scene (other people's money so we have to spend it) and there is a certain 'high ranking' council officer who still has a working model of a ski-lift up to the Castle in his office......
Best of luck. I'm away for a while .....
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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We may miss you bob lol
I hate it when they promise so much knowing they can't achieve
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Captain Haddock- Location: Marlinspike Hall
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Sorted out Deal Pier though!
Tenant into High Court. Council employees 'let go of'. (Sacked!)
What more you want?
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Reading this thread I started to think how Dover compares to central Calais or Boulogne-sur-Mer for shops, and even with the high number of vacant retail units, I'd say Dover is miles better than those to over the water (the hypermarkets don't count).
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yes in ageement with that Dover is alot better and with most towns in the UK TO
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Well why am not surprised
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DFL wrote:Reading this thread I started to think how Dover compares to central Calais or Boulogne-sur-Mer for shops, and even with the high number of vacant retail units, I'd say Dover is miles better than those to over the water (the hypermarkets don't count).
Haven't been into the town for about half a decade, but to me Calais was always more like a city compared to Dover's town. Especially once you cross over the bridge away from the tourist area.
Way more industry as well. Like a North of England port of old.
I'd say Boulogne has more to offer the tourist than Dover does in terms of restaurants and shops. It's more like Canterbury than Dover in that respect (again, it's been a good half a decade since I've been there).
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Andy B
- Location: dover
- Registered: 10 Nov 2012
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The veg stall in the market square had its last day of trading today just a shame the weather could have been better for them.The Dunford family have been trading in Dover for many years and will still be running their fruit n veg wholesale business in River.Theyve been regular traders in the market square for many years on Tuesday and Saturday but they decided to give the stall up as they are retiring.They start very early and often dont get packed down until 6.00pm some days,hard n heavy work in all weathers.Not sure if anyone will be taking the pitch over as yet.
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Come back those that made all the promises
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Karlos- Location: Dover
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The end seems to be close for the Burtons in Dover.
Any time I'm down that part of the town I'm surprised that it's still there!
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Karlos wrote:The end seems to be close for the Burtons in Dover.
Any time I'm down that part of the town I'm surprised that it's still there!
In all honesty because the shop looks so tatty i thought it had closed down.
Best shop in the whole town, the Beano cafe!!! How cheap is their full english LOL
