Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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7 November 2009
20:3632613I had a couple of lessons before buying, I was also given a BHTA, which is British Healthcare Trades Association, highway code for users of these vehicles, I also have insurance in case of accident, you are also obliged to register a class 3 invalid carriage with DVLA, we are not all bad drivers, if we drive on the paths we are dammed, by car drivers parking on the paths so that you cannot get by with a pushchair or car, if we go out onto road, we are dammed again, we are told to get back on the F***ing path where we belong, or better still in a cemetery out of everyones way, thats only a little of the abuse that I have taken, yes there are some bad users, that think they own the paths etc, but there are car owners who are as bad, that think they own the roads as well as the paths, and some very selfish ones at that, still they will get their just deserves God does not pay his debts with money
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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7 November 2009
21:0532616can't get into sheila's last line, but have to say its always the minority that give a bad name to the majority
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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7 November 2009
21:1532618getting back to the thread, does anyone know if any cyclists were spoken to today?
i was expecting a big turn out of police for the first day, did not see one, anarchy continued to reign.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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7 November 2009
21:1732620Was part of the thread howard
police at crabble today
8 November 2009
10:5732642Those drivers who park so badly - often just because they don't want to walk the extra few yards - that baby buggies and wheelchairs cannot get past on the pavement should also be fined. That makes me mad!! When ours were small \i often used to have to go out onto the road with the buggy because of those apes.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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8 November 2009
11:3432643I agree Bern. And in years gone by, it was only drunks that were parked on the pavement. Richard Dawkins sums it all up in his best seller, `The Selfish Gene`. So much selfishness about these days.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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8 November 2009
14:2932652pavement parking is a menace around my area, on the one hand traffic can only move freely if people do so, on the other hand, baby buggies and mobility scooters have to zig zag between pavement and road to get through.
the obvious solution is a one way system, only then can parking wardens take action against inconsiderate parkers.
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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8 November 2009
20:3032670howard
im interested to know how you think a one way system would help with parking, the one way wont alter the parking situation, cars will still park as they do now.
But i have to agree clarendon does need a one way system
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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8 November 2009
20:5532674keith
cars can only park on one side with a one way system and double yellows on one side.
as you know there are stacks of garages and hard standing around the area, around the backs of people houses, larger cars cannot negotiate the alleyways, but if everyone with a small car used these garages, the problem would be solved.
incidentally, when street parking was suspended a while back for resurfacing, everyone seemed to find somewhere to park.
Guest 690- Registered: 10 Oct 2009
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9 November 2009
17:2332718One of the new signs. Not too obtrusive.
12.40 today.
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howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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9 November 2009
17:5632724not clear enough for cyclists to read it though, especially when they are moving at great speed.
Guest 644- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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9 November 2009
18:0732726Fines are all very well but there must be people on the ground to enforce them, otherwise the sign is a little more than an empty threat. As most of our local plod are car-bound non-beat bobbies I expect very few fines will be issued, and those will be confined to over eighteens. Still, the signs may have a certain deterrant factor.
There used to be £50 littering penalty notices up around town too, but as DDC do not enforce them they have not been renewed as far as I can tell.
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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9 November 2009
18:1532728it is all just a bit of window dressing, will look good in the next propaganda sheet we get through the post from the police.
the headline will say "you said you were concerned about etc etc", we have put signs up saying that "etc etc will be taken seriously should we ever get around to doing something about it".
Guest 674- Registered: 25 Jun 2008
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10 November 2009
11:5532754HOWARD
I don't want to correct you
(but i will lol)
just because you have a one way system doesn't mean you have double yellow lines on one side of road.
And i dont think sheila's scheme is looking to do so(maybe sheila can clarify) but we do need to be clear on any proposals in clarendon
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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10 November 2009
17:5332780the petition went in sometime ago now, we should hear something soon.
incidentally, the double yellows are not too important, last saturday about 7 pm a van containing parking wardens turned up down my road, took a long look at the illegally parked vehicles then drove away without issuing any tickets.
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10 November 2009
21:0532798HOWARD
The YELLOW LINES are important if your expecting cars only on one side of road cos thas not what i think plans from sheila contain.
I think theres to be a public meeting at end of November
over to sheila
Guest 652- Registered: 13 Mar 2008
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11 November 2009
00:3832808The meeting is not confirmed as yet, hope to have confirmed in the next day or to, will be either 30th Nov or the 3rd Dec, but this is to do with the buses as well as the one way
Sheila
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11 November 2009
08:4032815Sheila, you know you don't have to do this on your own. There are County and District Councillors ready and willing to be involved, but we must know about them to be able to help.
Roger
howard mcsweeney1- Location: Dover
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11 November 2009
18:0432840there is a need for everyone that can be involved gets involved.
there are too many issues on the priory area that need to be addressed.
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12 November 2009
09:0232874You're right Howard, but sometimes it seems that people believe they can achieve all they want to achieve, by themselves - and they can't, at least not as successfully as they might have done, if they had opened the doors to others.
A good example is yesterday afternoon; you may know that there is a Folkestone Road Multi-Agency task force that are working together to try and address the many problems associated with the Folkestone Road.
Once the template of it is done and we know what works, then it will be spread out to other streets/areas in the Ward and District, but we have to start somewhere and it has to be a high-profile area to start with, hence the Folkestone Road.
DDC's Community Cohesion Officer had organised a Multi-Agency open-day at Vale View School last night between 3.30 and 7pm.
There were many officers from DDC, from many DDC departments; sure-start for young mums, a Lady who speaks 3 different languages, from Migrant Helpline; the owner of the WestBank Guest House, Mr. Michael and myself.
I hoped there would be more PF members, but no one could attend, so I wrote a paper on PF's aims and raison d'etre and printed off many copies of it.
Notes about the meeting were deliverd to every door along the Folkestone Road, so everyone knew about it.
We didn't have a lot of local people, but those that did come along were good people, people interested in helping to improve all aspects of life on the Folkestone Road and some who lived just off of the road.
I took their details so I can contact them later, but through all this, it was great networking too - finding out exactly what other departments can do, chatting to the Lady from Migrant Helpline on the advice they give out to new immigrants who come here.
She agreed with me that it is the perception of what new immgrants get, that causes the problem, not the immigrants themselves, so I said we need to know exactly what they do get, what they are told and then and only then will we have more harmony.
I actually explained that fairy joke to her and she said it wasn't racist, it wasn't about putting down new immgrants, it was about the perception that they get everything and we get nothing: this Lady comes from Eastern Europe - Armenia and she knew what I was saying.
I stood there talking to people for 3 1/2 hours because I felt it was important to do so; I was in agony every minute of the time and when I came out of the school, I tripped on the step and screamed out in agony as I had twisted my knee - I looked up and said "Thank You God".
Jean picked me up thank goodness.
Some poeple care about their local community, others don't give a stuff.
Roger
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