Keith Sansum1
- Location: london
- Registered: 25 Aug 2010
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So you put your garden parties ahead of remembering those that died for us?
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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I did not say that .You can remember.War still goes on Keith .Youndid not answer the question,where did the civic party eat ?.If you have followed my posts you will see my comments .Imgather Remberance Day is also going to be a big event .Its what you do for mankind each day that is important .
Sue Nicholas- Location: river
- Registered: 12 Mar 2008
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The garden parties have not been held since 2000 Labour were in administration .I have a lovely picture of the late Pery Wilson when he was Chairman of DDC.A good Labour man .
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Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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There has been good Labour Tory and Lib dems over the years
but not relevant to this post
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Guest 1535- Registered: 27 May 2015
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Captain Haddock wrote:With due respect to all 'our' total civilian deaths of 62,000 in WW2 were tiny compared to that suffered by other combatant nations. [U]We[/U] managed to kill 42,600 over a weeks bombing of Hamburg , almost the same number as died in nine months of the London Blitz.
http://secondworldwar.co.uk/index.php/fatalities
Puts the 5,000 plus total civilians killed in ongoing war in Yemen into perspective in my opinion.
Is that a war crime killing so many civilians such a short space or was it our bombers not aiming right? Because the number you're quoting Captain tells me we were aiming for civilians not a proper target of war, unless our target was to abolish as many civilians as we could. I would be not proud of one solider who done such acts.
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Jan Higgins wrote:The ordinary population die or are injured while those at the top who instigate wars and conflicts sit in their cosy office or home or even luxury palace safe and sound.
Should watch 'Churchill' the film on netflix if correct he was not wanting to be in his seat but be with the men who were going out to war, with the top dogs of army, navy did sit in their seats. Wish old Churchy was here now he had some balls.
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Sue Nicholas wrote:A lot of people attended those over the years .It was a thank you gesture to the many people who contibuted to the life of the district .It was also a way of promoting businesses .I recall the PR man from Mclarens DDC we were trying to get them to relocate at Llydden .I chatted to the Pr guy and within the week Ron Dennis,s head man visited DDC ,It was a very good PR exercise.
it's time to move on Keith .Where did all the invited guests to Modays event eat .Were the general public invited into the Town Hall .Did you attend any civic treceptions ?.
I see Sue you mention a party at Townhall if I am correct. Do you know what was the cost of this party then on monday for all this food whilst Dover people are going to nifties and food banks because they cannot afford food because of high council tax costs ontop of everything else. So they paid for this super party with lots of fine food.
ANYONE OUT THERE HOW MUCH DID IT COST?
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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My point excactly.I have looked at the finance papers.seem to cover 2017 and 2018 .Very hard to work out DTC minutes.
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Why were the towns people not invited this party they paid for Sue can you find this out also sorry to be mean and all but bloody hell a party also. Are we muck under such feet the descendants of those who fought.
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Jan Higgins
- Location: Dover
- Registered: 5 Jul 2010
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Lets be honest the garden parties along with most civic events that the general public are unable to attend are jollies for those involved.
The Zeebrugge event is open to the general public that like a little pomp while they honour the fallen so very like most if not all remembrance events.
I know which I think is the best value for tax payers money.
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Guest 1535- Registered: 27 May 2015
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None at all Jan that best value for money is such dire straight times. We all told about cut back until the 'elite' come out to find anything to party for
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If the post on youtube is correct the Queen mother was the worst of all she racked up 6 million in debt for her parties I thought she was such a quiet old thing. Most her blood was made up of drink and fine food by the youtube post account, so no wander she lived so long. Sorry going off post. But I hate spending when others suffer their suffering is because of all the spending mainly.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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It wasn't a party but the civics must have needed refreshments as the service was longer with the parade .
Keith Sansum1- Location: london
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Shall we start to cost the garden parties you had to buy hats for Sue?
Where the public were unable to use parts of kearsney abbey
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Were the public served refreshments and was the refreshments alcohol - was it expensive refreshments and what happened to the overflow of the bottles at the end? So many questions whilst the public who paid for this stood like cattle outside with their own bought refreshments after buying the the refreshments for the 'elite'.
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Sue Nicholas- Location: river
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I shall not continue this debate.I have my views and I was born before world war TWO.My daughter paid for some of my hats you are only jealous Keith because they don't suit you .
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SWWood- Location: Dover
- Registered: 30 May 2012
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I wonder how previous generations of Dovorians would feel reading this thread. The Zeebrugge raid has a special local interest due to the involvement of the Dover Patrol, as well as Deal's Royal Marines. This town, along with Deal, has commemorated this event for the last hundred years, without complaint, because those who died in that raid deserve our remembrance. And yet now, when it comes to marking the centenary of the raid, it is being described as too expensive, or "over the top". Wow. This town is not the most prosperous part of the country, and never has been, but it has not, and should not, ever put a cost on respecting it's war dead. I struggle to think of anything more worthy of a few thousand pounds of the town council's money. Indeed, all the time there are people who want to commemorate the raid, whether they be from Dover, Deal, or further afield ( the representatives from Zeebrugge, Brugges and Flanders don't seem to complain), this town, and it's council should make every effort possible to facilitate those wishes. Hopefully, these ceremonies will continue for another hundred years. The men who gave their lives deserve it.
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Id rather put money into a memorial placed at seafront where people can pay respects who wish to do so.
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SWWood- Location: Dover
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Amberleaf50 wrote:Id rather put money into a memorial placed at seafront where people can pay respects who wish to do so.
There's a perfectly good memorial in St James' cemetery, along with the graves of 59 of the men who died on that raid. There is no need for another.
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